Honestly, somebody with an ego can't be vulnerable because everything is so manufactured when

you're in that ego place.

It's like this armor and this shield and what you want people to think of you.

And I've always found that the pathway to my greatest joy and the work that I do and the

pathway to the greatest ability to inspire others has been in vulnerability, which has

been all soul.

Hey guys, you're listening to the Big Conversations podcast.

I'm your host, Haley Hoffman Smith.

I'm an entrepreneur, a bestselling author, and a Forbes most influential speaker.

You're in the right place if you're ready to step into the

bigger life that you were destined for because we're about to get real on how to do so.

So let's get started with today's big conversation.

Hey guys. Welcome back to big important conversations. I'm literally recording this laying down on my couch,

holding the microphone, which usually sits on my desk, like I'm speaking into it for some

sort of speaking engagement while I'm laying here. I don't know if it's just me. I don't think it is,

though, but I have just been so tired lately. And I think that's just a testament to a lot of the energetic shifts that have been happening.

I will be like full steam ahead with the day and then crash later in the afternoon.

Actually today I'm recording this on the Monday before I post it.

You know, we like to keep it fresh.

I don't really content badge.

This is very, very fresh for you guys.

But I woke up really early this

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