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Hi, my name is Marty.

I am the ultimate wing girl, and it is my job to teach men, and I'll teach women as well,

how to attract, date, seduce, get, and keep the women they want, and I am here on Ever Forward

Radio.

I haven't been in the dating world in 13 years.

Okay.

Yeah.

So my wife and I've been married almost nine years, been together for 13.

Wonderful. So dating back then was totally different.

It was we actually went out in public and that's how we met people.

And I talk to a lot of my single friends now and they're like, bar, what's that? Right, exactly. In person? You just go out in public and talk to strangers. I mean, yeah. So. You guys are so old school. Why would you do that? See, that's 13 years ago. So you still had dating apps. When I was dating. Oh, no. I was dating. It was just starting. Oh, no. When I was dating, it was just starting.

And I've been with my husband for 21 years. I remember we went for this shoot that he had right before I had my son, because that's where I got pregnant. That's why I know that. But all of his staff that were there, they were doing a shoot in Brooklyn. And they were all on Tinder. Tinder had just come out. This was 15. Oh, no, actually, you're right. It was 13 years ago. You're right.

We were just dating. And. in Brooklyn and they were all on Tinder. Tinder had just come out. This was 15.

Oh, no, actually, you're right.

It was 13 years ago.

You're right. We were just dating and Tinder had just started to come out. Yeah. And my husband and I were looking over their shoulder being like, what is this thing? And both of us were like, damn, we'd be so good on this. Like we were both jealous that we couldn't be using these apps because it just seemed so easy.

If you if you had some wit, if you had some confidence, if you could control yourself and you could present yourself well, you could like rule on that thing. So I thought that was the most amazing thing that ever was created. So yeah, you were around as it was just coming out. We got to witness a lot of our friends at the time. And, you know, Tinder then was just basically a hookup app, more or less. Aren't they all? Yeah. Now we know friends that have gotten married or engaged, you know, from Bumble, from Tinder, from all these things. My sister, who's now had a baby, like six months ago, she met her partner on Bumble as well. So yeah, they do great things. There's hope out there for all of new people. There is. If you use it correctly. Okay. Let's start there. How are people not using dating

apps correctly? Because they use it superficially. Right? I mean, that's what real life is like

as well. You look at people superficially, but you get the 3D version of them. So the rest of them

comes in in the first one to five minutes of having a

conversation with them or interacting with them or viewing them from a distance where you get

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