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So Into That

efficiency hacks, the transition from 1 to 2 kids, and recognizing that mom guilt is actually often jealousy, with cameron rogers (freckled foodie)

So Into That

Caro Chambers

Society & Culture, Food, Arts

51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Cameron Rogers is a longtime friend and OG food/mom content creator who played a crucial role in helping me open up about my life online.

True to her Freckled Foodie roots, she still develops recipes but these days you’re more likely to find her talking about motherhood, overall physical and mental health, and how they’re intertwined.

So in this episode, we catch up about how to divide the labor of running a household and raising kids; our thoughts on the transition from one child to two; identifying what makes you anxious and creating systems to avoid it, and much more.

Also: right before we recorded this, Cameron interviewed me for her podcast. Check out that conversation on her feed here.

We also get into:

* How being hit by a car led Cameron to make some major life changes

* How she rarely spends time on her phone but still manages to stay on top of texts and emails

* Blocking time to handle small tasks in batches so you can stay more present throughout the day

* Our occasional feelings of “jealousy” (feels more accurate than “mom guilt”) when handing over childcare

* Her wild birth story of having contractions for weeks and being turned away by the hospital because of a bed shortage!

Links:

* Fair Play deck for couples

* Cameron’s website

* Her Instagram

* Her podcast, Freckled Foodie and Friends

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Cammy. Hi here we are this is my first in person and it feels good. Oh my God I'm so happy

0:06.7

I get to pop your Terry look at these cool black walls I know look at these cool velvet couches we are here

0:11.7

together in New York City and we have not been together in so long.

0:14.3

Cammy is one of my good friends from boarding school's little sister so I've known her for a very, very long time and she has been crushing the Creator world for a really long time and

0:28.8

So kind very much helped me figure out what the

0:32.6

the fuck I was doing.

0:33.9

When you first start to try to become an influencer,

0:38.4

it feels like so daunting.

0:40.4

And you're like talking to your, grow you have to talk to an audience of like

0:45.8

10 10 as if you are already an influencer because otherwise how are you ever

0:51.8

yeah gonna grow so grow because no one's like they have to have something to follow and it is the most vulnerable freaky thing like now you and I can let go spout the fuck off in our stories

1:04.4

without even thinking about it tell you are as TMI as I am on stories

1:09.2

there is nothing off limits we can chat chat, but at the time I'd be like,

1:13.0

today I made spaghetti for dinner.

1:17.0

And you, Kami, was my first call.

1:20.0

As you guys, as most of my listeners know, I tried to get a book deal and my publisher was basically

1:26.4

like every single publisher was like go to hell you don't have an Instagram audience like

1:31.6

why would we ever give you a book deal so I called Cameron I was like you've got an Instagram audience like why would we ever give you a book deal? So I called camera and I was like you've got an Instagram audience how how do how I do that and you're like I don't know dude but try this like you know? You gave me Yeah, you gave me hours and hours of advice.

1:43.0

You were always available over text.

1:45.0

So I wanted to start this by saying thank you.

1:47.0

Oh my God, of course.

1:48.0

Look at us now.

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