I have to give that one a good try.

I'm gonna take my chance tonight and get it right the first time that's the main thing.

Oh, I can't afford a little pass.

Get it right the next time that's not the same thing.

Oh, I'm gonna make a first time list.

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Hello and welcome to episode 816 of Effectively Wild, the daily podcasts from baseball perspectives presented by the Plan Dex at baseballdreference.com.

I am Ben Lemberg of 538, joined as always by Sennilern of baseball perspectives.

And today we are beginning our fourth annual podcast season preview series in which we dote an episode to each team

starting with the team with the lowest Dakota projected wind total and going up from there.

We have two segments in the first segment.

Sam and I interview the author of the BP annual essay about the given team.

And in the second segment, either Jeff Patronostro or George Bissill of baseball perspectives will interview someone else who covers that team.

And today in our second segment, Jeff will talk to Megan Montemiro who covers the Phillies for the news journal.

But in our first segment, we're talking to the author of the Phillies essay in the BP annual.

Holly M went who is a writer and editor at the classical.

Hello, Holly.

The Phillies were first up in our preview podcast series last year.

Dakota projected that they would be the worst team in baseball and they were the worst team in baseball.

And we're starting with the Phillies again.

Dakota is pretty much just as pessimistic as it was this time last year.

But it seems from afar as if there is more positivity surrounding the team this year that maybe there is a sense that even though this year's projected record is not good.

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