Good morning and welcome to episode 799 of Effectively Wild, the Daily Podcast from Baseball

Respectis brought to you by the play of X, baseballreference.com. I'm Sam Miller along with Ben

Lindbergh of 538. Hey Ben, hello. And also our guest today, he works for the Los Angeles

Times. His name is Andy McCullough. Hi Andy. Hi, how's it going guys? Pretty good. What's your job at

the LA Times? I'm going to be covering the Los Angeles Dodgers. Is it sensitive to ask what's

happening to Dylan? Dylan is going to stay with the paper in a role that I guess has not been

announced yet, but Dylan will be fine. Do a great job not covering Dodgers, Camson.

Okay, because there are there are any number of beatwriters in this country in which you would be

like a seven or eight win upgrade. And that might be the one company where you would not be at all.

Thank you. I mean, I mean, I mean, a lot. Just technically speaking, like it's, you know,

you're replacing a... You could have just said, hey Dylan's good. He is, no.

Did you get any mutual options in your deal? No, like all my deals, it only has team options

and it's very team friendly. You watched Dayton Moore negotiate for two years up close and he

didn't get a mutual option. I love the mutual options, man. Like that's like, they are so, I mean,

they're basically like buyouts, right? They're basically just basically like free money. It seems

like, you know, because you just, you just build in a buyout to some fanciful mutual option that

will never be struck. And it's just a way to get like an extra million dollars. It's great. I love it.

Has anybody written about the history of mutual options and the rate at which they're

mutually picked up? Because if not, I'm claiming, I'm claiming dibs now. You're going to go for it.

All right. I don't know how you would find that, I guess. I don't know if there's a database

to have that, but I don't know if I'd ever had a, like, seen a mutual option picked up. I

did that or is, then there's like a famous one I apologize, but I think they're like, you know,

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