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Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Effectively Wild Episode 686: Catcher Game-Calling, Now Slightly Less Mysterious

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley

Baseball, Sports

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2015

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Ben and Sam talk to BP Director of Technology Harry Pavlidis about his recent discoveries about game-calling and our new understanding of what catchers are worth.

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0:00.0

Good morning, and welcome to episode 686 of Effectively Wild.

0:29.9

daily podcast from baseball perspective presented by the play index at baseballreference.com.

0:35.8

I am Ben Limberg of Grantland joined by San Miller of baseball perspective. Hello, Sam. Hello.

0:42.1

And we are joined for the first time in a couple hundred episodes by B.P.'s director of

0:49.1

technology, Harry Publitus. Hello, Harry. Hello. So we talk about catcher stats on this podcast,

0:56.2

or I talk about catcher stats in Sam Wissens sometimes. And so you have been one of the driving

1:04.3

forces behind all the new catcher stats that we've gotten to play with over the last couple years.

1:08.8

And you have a new one this week. And it is kind of the, I don't know, maybe it's the,

1:14.4

maybe it's the last piece of the puzzle. Maybe it's not. We can talk about that. But you wrote

1:19.2

something for ESPN magazine this week about game calling. And you came up with a game calling

1:25.5

stat and you rated game calling. And this has kind of been the final frontier for catcher stats.

1:32.2

We've had framing. We've had throwing. We've had fielding badded balls. But we have been missing

1:38.4

this game calling element, which pictures and catchers tell you is very important. And now we have

1:44.3

numbers. So tell us how we have these numbers. How did you put a number on game calling and what

1:51.2

does it mean exactly? What does game calling encompass? These final frontier

1:55.4

years are frightening. So because there's a lot of unknowns. So we did the process really started.

2:02.8

Oh gosh. About a year ago, when I did a piece with ESPN about framing. And we talked about what

2:09.8

was going to be next. And I said, we hope by some time early in this season, 2015 that we would

2:14.8

have something on game calling and turned out that wasn't quite so early. But what happened was

2:20.0

it was kind of a side effect of DRA, which as we produced DRA, there's a core calculation that

2:27.1

we figured out the value of expected versus actual outcome of each plate of parents.

2:33.1

I should say that is deserved run average with the new BP pitching stat, which you can hear Jonathan

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