While there is the discreet attorney.

Now, if you've listened to the up-and-end podcast from baseball

perspectives, you know our next guest.

He's a man who is very much in the news at the moment.

It's not Jim Tracy.

Not Jim.

Thank you for joining us.

The news broke over the weekend that you were resigning after nearly

four full seasons as the manager of the Rockies.

So we wanted to have you on to discuss this.

Can you tell us a little bit about what went into your decision and

whether you plan to manage again in the future?

Well, Wendy, it's interesting you asked that because over the

course of a period of time in which I managed to write franchise

for the Colorado Rockies.

Great franchise.

It's been a constant in Kevin Ritz.

Troy Tolowitsky and on and on.

On paper.

Shit.

Vinny Castillo.

I already mentioned once but he's such a great player.

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