Good morning and welcome to episode 274 of Effectively Wild, the daily podcast from

baseballperspectus.com. I'm Sam Miller with Ben Lindbergh, how are you Ben?

That's so great, kind of down. I warned people when I when I posted yesterday's

episode in the Facebook group, I warned people that it was kind of a depressing

one because we talked about Sebathia and the Mariners, not the happiest

topics and I feel like we have to talk about Matt Harvey today and I don't want

to have to talk about that. Not not so happy about that. I was a bit I would say

I was a bit surprised by how depressed everybody was. I mean I also thought it

was a bummer and I don't know that I think that it was a disproportionate

response but I don't recall that being like a normal thing when a guy gets

injured. Is that a normal thing? I mean it was it was like a solid 90 minutes of

just people morning. Like it was really like it was like when James Gandalf

Fini died. It was it was like that. Like there were no jokes at all. Nobody was

making jokes about it. It was just like like I actually was thinking should I

say something funny? No. No. No. I think it was well I think the closest

comp and I was actually going to ask you whether you had one, whether you

could think of an injury that just gave you one. It was James Gandalf. Yeah well

I guess I mean Strasbourg is close right? I remember being pretty pretty

depressed about Strasbourg because he was so exciting that first year and then

suddenly he was having Tommy John surgery and and I mean he's you know he kind

of and it sounds it sounds spoiled to say this because he has been incredible

ever since but stuff wise I feel like he's never been quite the same as he was

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