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Hello and welcome to episode 2496 of Effectively Wild, a Fangraphs baseball podcast brought you by our Patreon supporters. I'm Meg Raleigh of Fangraff, and I am joined by Ben Lindberg of the Ringer. Ben, how are you? Well, considering who the guest on this episode is, you know how I am. I do. Never been better. I know. You're thrilled. John Brebby is back, folks. Back in the big leagues, back on effectively wild. So I will have

an extended conversation with him later on this episode, which you were invited to, to be clear.

I'm not trying to Brebea block you or anything. But you, I think you, it's kind of like, you know, when you're your third wheeling it with a couple lovebirds and you invent a reason to get out of their hair kind of thing.

And I said, I would welcome a chaperone, you know, if you wanted to accompany in us like it's the gilded age or something.

And, you know, you had to to accompany in us, like, it's the gilded age or something, and, you know,

you had to walk a discrete distance behind us just to ensure our virtue is intact or whatever,

then that that would have been totally fine. But you were considerate enough to just say,

no, you have them all to yourself. You said I could be the chaperone. I was like, well, you don't need a chaperone.

And then you went off to have your conversation.

I was like, he said the word chaperone, maybe suggests that I should have interrogated the

necessity there a little bit more closely.

But I have confidence in your professionalism, Penn, you know, and your ability to be, be well you know to to clear a bar of um being

socially normal that um walk right up to the line but not over it not making me feel better about

it though you're making me nervous now to listen to your conversation, which seems bananas.

So anyway, here we are, you know, Gilded Age coming back.

Oh, I know.

I'm well aware.

Almost as excited about that as I am about Brebia being back, but not quite.

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