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Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Effectively Wild Episode 2408: Cease and D. Cease’d

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley

Sports, Baseball

4.82.6K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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0:00.0

A baseball podcast,

0:04.3

Analytics and stats with Ben and Meg from Fangraphs.

0:12.1

Effectively wine.

0:17.0

Effective in life.

0:37.1

Effective in life. Hello and welcome to episode Hello and welcome to episode 2408 of Effectively Wild, a fancrafts baseball podcast brought to by our Patreon supporters.

0:41.1

I'm Meg Raleigh of Fangraphs and I'm joined by Ben Lindbergh of the ringer.

0:42.0

Ben, how are you?

0:45.0

Doing well. I've given thanks. How are you?

0:49.5

I have also given thanks and felt gratified to do so.

0:54.8

Yeah. Well, we have much to give thanks for, including our reader mail.

1:06.4

And to forest all future messages, I must respond to the responses to one of the listener emails we discussed on our last pre-Thanksgiving episode.

1:07.0

Yeah.

1:24.7

On 2407, the, I believe, second email we answered, which was from Mark, a Patreon supporter, who suggested a zombie runner alternative where each team would play one single extra inning when the game is tied after nine.

1:31.2

And the winner would be determined by how quickly each team scores.

1:39.0

Right. So it would be first to one run, essentially. Each team would get a crack at it in the top half and the bottom half. And the winner would be determined by who used the fewest plate appearances to score.

1:46.2

And one of the objections that we raised was that this system could be gamed.

1:52.1

Yeah.

1:52.4

Because you could essentially put people on base in the bottom half of the 10th, I suppose.

1:58.7

If the team that was visiting scored in the top half of the inning in a certain

2:03.7

number of played appearances, you could then advance the home team's counter to more played

2:10.2

appearances than that by just say walking the bases loaded if you were in a certain situation.

2:15.9

And so it could be manipulated and we ruled it out on that basis, maybe not only that basis,

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