Effectively Wild Episode 2385: Must-Win Shame
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley
4.7 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 10 October 2025
⏱️ 104 minutes
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Summary

Ben Lindbergh and Meg Rowley banter about the rampant overuse of the phrase “must-win game,” denying late timeouts, the Blue Jays’ victory over the Yankees, Vladimir Guerrero Jr., a Yankees postmortem, Aaron Judge’s partial postseason redemption, the athletic (and managerial) highlights and lowlights of the other ALDS and the two NLDSes, the swan song of October Clayton Kershaw, postseason sacrifice bunting, Bryce Harper’s thoughts on childbirth, and more.
Audio intro: Alex Glossman and Ali Breneman, “Effectively Wild Theme”
Audio outro: The Shirey Brothers, “Effectively Wild Theme”
Link to Passan’s Phillies tweet
Link to Posnanski on comebacks from 0-2
Link to Vlad’s Yankees grudge
Link to Vlad and Papi
Link to Papi on Schlittler
Link to Rosenthal on Judge
Link to Sheehan on Judge
Link to Rosenthal on the Yankees
Link to The Ringer on Fox’s MLB panel
Link to “clean your clock” etymology
Link to Stott bunt explanation
Link to Harper quote
Link to Raleigh shirt story
Link to infield-fly call
Link to Stark fun fact
Link to The West Wing scene
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| 0:00.0 | Let's play ball. |
| 0:02.2 | It's effectively wild. |
| 0:05.0 | It's effectively wild. |
| 0:08.1 | It's effectively wild. |
| 0:09.8 | Hello and welcome to episode 2385 of Effectively Wild |
| 0:18.8 | Baseball Podcast from Fangraphs presented by our Patreon supporters. |
| 0:23.4 | I am Ben Lindberg of the Ringer, joined by Meg Rally of FanGraphs. |
| 0:27.0 | Hello, Meg. |
| 0:27.9 | Hello. |
| 0:28.9 | Well, in the postseason, it's always important to specify when we are recording |
| 0:33.1 | so that you can situate us in time and amid the series that are ongoing here. |
| 0:38.8 | So we are talking Thursday afternoon, Eastern time, at least. |
| 0:44.0 | Wednesday we had four games, which was fun the last time that we'll have more than two games in a day this season. |
| 0:52.2 | And all four were potential clinchers, though only one of them actually |
| 0:56.4 | turned out to be a clincher. So we are recording now prior to two more potential clinchers, |
| 1:03.1 | both NLDS, game fours. Games four, game fours. I have to say, so we had a bunch of teams that actually were facing must-win games on Wednesday, |
| 1:16.7 | because if they did not win, they would have been eliminated. |
| 1:19.9 | However, we're getting this must-win game creep, which I think I have probably brought up before, but I've been noticing it more and more |
| 1:30.1 | where people try to heighten the stakes of games that already have high stakes. It's the postseason. |
| 1:39.0 | It's short series is best of five. Every game is important. We know that going in. It's not like any game is just, |
| 1:46.1 | sure, whatever. I guess we could afford to lose that one. But people just want to build it up |
| 1:52.4 | into being even bigger than it is. I'm going to pick on Jeff Passon here just for a second. |
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