Effectively Wild Episode 2082: Opposing Counsell
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley
4.7 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 7 November 2023
⏱️ 89 minutes
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Summary

Ben Lindbergh and Meg Rowley banter about whether whether they’d watch the winning team celebrate if they lost the World Series, then (17:09) discuss a trio of managerial moves (the Cubs poaching Craig Counsell from the Brewers, the Guardians hiring Stephen Vogt, and the Mets hiring Carlos Mendoza), the Marlins hiring the Rays’ GM, and what the Padres declining Michael Wacha’s option says about a Juan Soto trade, plus (1:04:30) some consideration of whether an-season tournament like the NBA’s makes sense for MLB and (1:23:27) a few follow-ups.
Audio intro: Beatwriter, “Effectively Wild Theme”
Audio outro: Jonathan Crymes, “Effectively Wild Theme”
Link to FB thread
Link to Patek photo
Link to Sam on Kershaw
Link to Sad Keanu meme
Link to MLBTR on Counsell
Link to story about Cubs tampering
Link to story on Selig Rule
Link to ESPN on Vogt
Link to Aaron on journeymanagers
Link to ESPN on Mendoza
Link to Passan tweet about salaries
Link to MLBTR on Wacha’s option
Link to Becker’s tweet about Wacha
Link to MLBTR on Bendix
Link to Bendix at SB Nation
Link to in-season tournament wiki
Link to in-season tournament explainer
Link to story on load management
Link to Attanasio comment
Link to Vogt’s wiki
Link to EW on Vogt’s wiki
Link to Correa on Maldonado
Link to Ben on player-value estimates
Link to qualifying offers
Link to qualifying-offer history
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| 0:00.0 | Scott Boris nautical analogies of tragedies. Keep them honest. |
| 0:03.6 | Roon, room. Here's your primmer on beef boys, baseball's in, Roger Angel and |
| 0:08.2 | Super Pretzels. |
| 0:09.2 | Williams As to Diel and Mike Trout hypotheticals, waiting for the perfect bat from a volcanic |
| 0:14.3 | eruption. Ladies and gentlemen, the Effectively Wild introduction. |
| 0:17.6 | Hello and welcome to episode 2082 of Effectively Wild, a fangrafts baseball podcast brought to you by our |
| 0:25.2 | Patreon supporters. |
| 0:26.2 | I'm Aig Rally of fangrafts and I am joined by Ben Lember of the |
| 0:28.7 | Ringer Ben, how are you? |
| 0:30.5 | I'm all right, how are you? |
| 0:32.3 | I don't work for the Chicago Cubs but some people do. |
| 0:37.0 | Although some people don't. My God. Yeah, we have some hot managerial news to talk about in a moment. |
| 0:43.2 | How often is that something that we would say? |
| 0:46.7 | But I have one quick prompt for you before that. |
| 0:50.1 | There was a thread in our Facebook group posted by someone named Casey who said I'll never |
| 0:55.6 | understand why some players on the losing team in the World Series stay in the dugout |
| 1:00.4 | and watch the winning team celebrate. |
| 1:02.6 | If it were me, I'd run back to the clubhouse like my hair was on fire, the second the last out was made. |
| 1:08.2 | So I wanted to ask you, tag yourself in the footage of the World Series ending where you always see the |
| 1:16.6 | winter celebrating and then the losers. Some guys immediately they pack up their |
| 1:20.4 | stuff and they head for the tunnel and they get out of there and other guys sit out there and I don't know torture themselves or try to come to terms with the fact that they just lost some of them with their heads and their hands, some of them trying to seem stoic, what would |
| 1:36.4 | you do in that scenario? |
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