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Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Effectively Wild Episode 2073: Veeck As in Discotheque

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley

Sports, Baseball

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2023

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Ben Lindbergh and Meg Rowley banter about the abrupt end of Kim Ng’s tenure as the general manager of the Miami Marlins, Alyssa Nakken interviewing for the Giants’ manager job, the Rangers taking a 2-0 lead on the Astros in the ALCS, and the new Netflix documentary The Saint of Second Chances. Then (48:12) Ben talks to the documentary’s subject, baseball maverick Mike Veeck, about why he wanted to tell his up-and-down-and-up story, his legendary dad, Hall of Famer Bill Veeck, and the colorful Veeck clan, Disco Demolition Night, the origins of modern independent baseball, Darryl Strawberry’s season with the St. Paul Saints, the secret to a great baseball promotion, the Savannah Bananas, whether MLB could ever have a Veeck-ian owner again, MLB’s control (and contraction) of the minor leagues, and more.

Audio intro: Nate Emerson, “Effectively Wild Theme
Audio outro: Josh Busman, “Effectively Wild Theme

Link to Ghiroli on Ng
Link to Passan on Ng
Link to Kepner on Ng
Link to MLBTR on Nakken
Link to Ben Clemens on the Astros
Link to Ken Rosenthal on Yordan
Link to article on Jordan’s flu game
Link to exploding-scoreboard video
Link to The Saint of Second Chances
Link to documentary trailer
Link to MiLB.com on Mike Veeck
Link to list of Veeck’s promotions
Link to Vice on Disco Demolition Night
Link to Ben on Bill Veeck 1
Link to Ben on Veeck 2
Link to Ben on Veeck 3
Link to Ben on Veeck 4
Link to SABR on the ’43 Phillies
Link to BJO on book inaccuracies
Link to SABR’s Bill Veeck bio
Link to Craig Wright on Paige
Link to EW interview about the Bananas
Link to Veeck As in Wreck
Link to The Hustler’s Handbook
Link to Fun is Good
Link to Mike’s website
Link to playoff-stats spreadsheet
Link to The Ringer-Verse podcast
Link to House of R podcast

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to episode 2073 of Effectively Wild, a baseball podcast from Fan Graphs

0:21.0

presented by our Patreon supporters, I am Ben Lindbergh, of the ringer joined by

0:25.8

Meg Rally of Fan Graphs. Hello, Meg. Hello. We are recording during ALCS Game 2 in the closing moments,

0:34.7

maybe, perhaps, so maybe we can start elsewhere and perhaps we will have a final by the end of this

0:41.9

intro we shall see. But there has been some big off-the-field baseball news that was reported on

0:49.5

Monday, so that might be a place where we could start. Kim Aing, no longer the Marlin's GM. She is

0:58.2

out, it was... Well, it sounds like it was a contentious situation. There have been a couple of

1:04.7

pieces that have come out. Brittany Drolley wrote about it for the athletic, Jeff Passon wrote about

1:09.8

it for ESPN, and essentially her deal was up, so she was not fired, and in fact the Marlin's

1:18.5

exercise there end of a mutual option, and she did not, though it sounds like she had every reason

1:26.5

not to, based on some of this reporting. So the way that Brittany Drolley characterized it was

1:33.9

that this came as a result of numerous instances in which Aing felt like she was being stripped

1:40.6

of her power and underappreciated. And one of those instances, one piece of evidence there,

1:47.7

was that the organization didn't offer her a new three-year deal following the conclusion of

1:53.9

her initial three-year deal, and the Marlins making the playoffs in 2023. So often when that happens,

2:00.9

you will get sort of a re-up the same deal that you had before. I think Buster only reported that

2:06.8

they offered her some sort of extension, but I guess it wasn't for the same length. I don't know

2:12.5

what the details or the terms were, so that was one thing. Another thing is that she was to

2:19.8

quote the athletic piece, having trouble getting rid of some of Miami's holdovers from previous

2:25.2

regimes, and then the big thing is that apparently they wanted to put a pobo over her. They wanted

2:33.4

to hire a pobo. Are we going to make pobo happen? I like pobo. I like saying pobo. So I'm going to

2:41.9

say pobo. Pobo sounds like a value meal at Burger King to me, like I don't know why, like

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