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Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Effectively Wild Episode 1944: The Christmas Socks of Free Agents

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley

Sports, Baseball

4.82.6K Ratings

🗓️ 21 December 2022

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Ben Lindbergh and Meg Rowley banter about the differences, if any, between a two-year deal with an opt out after the first year and a one-year deal with a player option for a second year, then discuss the Dansby Swanson signing, the destinations of the winter’s top four shortstops, and the state of the Cubs, […]

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0:00.0

If you dream of the girl who told you and called us again too

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A bright young boy with a feeling like Sir if you feel so close and get too

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A bright young boy with a feeling like Sir if you feel so close and get too

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A bright young boy with a feeling like Sir if you feel so close and get too

0:33.0

A bright young boy with a feeling like Sir if you feel so close and get too

0:35.0

Hello and welcome to episode 1944 of Effectively Wild a baseball podcast

0:41.0

from FanGraphs presented by our Patreon supporters I am Ben Lindbergh of the Ringer

0:45.0

joined by Meg Rally of FanGraphs, a low-mic.

0:48.0

Hello!

0:49.0

So here is a discussion topic that came up in our Patreon Discord group

0:53.0

and it's kind of a pedantic question but not purely pedantic.

0:58.0

I think it's also semi-consequential.

1:01.0

Okay.

1:02.0

How do we decide on the terminology of a two-year deal with an opt-out after the first year

1:09.0

versus a one-year deal with a player option for the second year?

1:14.0

Because we're seeing a whole host of these deals get signed.

1:18.0

I think Seth Lugo, Josh Bell and Jr. Heaney, Adam Adevino, Omar Narvias.

1:23.0

There's just a lot of these two-year deals that have an opt-out after the first year.

1:29.0

And you could in theory describe those as a one-year deal with a player option.

1:35.0

It's sort of the same thing either way.

1:37.0

You know that they're there for the first year and then the player can decide

1:41.0

what they want to do with the second year.

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