Effectively Wild Episode 1848: Shantz Encounter
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley
4.7 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 13 May 2022
⏱️ 134 minutes
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Summary

Ben Lindbergh and Meg Rowley banter about which is more impressive, Reid Detmers throwing a two-strikeout no-hitter or right-handed hitter Anthony Rendon homering from the left side against a position-player pitcher, recount (11:50) the surprisingly long, largely forgotten history of the 20-seconds-between-pitches rule and the pitch clock in pro ball and the big leagues, and assess whether the upcoming introduction of the pitch clock to MLB will work better than a short-lived attempt in 1969, then Stat Blast (58:12) about the hitters and pitchers who performed best against future Hall of Famers, and (1:21:42) cold call 96-year-old Yankees/Athletics legend Bobby Shantz to discuss his incredible life and career.
Audio intro: Genesis, “Counting Out Time”
Audio outro: ABBA, “Me and Bobby and Bobby’s Brother”
Link to article on Detmers and strikeouts
Link to stats on CGs with fewer than 3 Ks
Link to MLB.com article on Rendon
Link to Ben Clemens on Rendon and Detmers
Link to Manfred’s pitch clock comments
Link to John Thorn on speeding up play
Link to doc with collected pitch clock sources
Link to average pace by season
Link to SI on Charlie Finley’s clock
Link to Ben on Bill Veeck
Link to The Hustler’s Handbook
Link to The Hustler’s Handbook excerpt 1
Link to The Hustler’s Handbook excerpt 2
Link to 1975 story on Veeck’s Pitchometer
Link to Ben on pace and defense
Link to Orioles program page
Link to Stathead
Link to Stat Blast vs. HoFers data
Link to Rob Arthur on pitchers vs. hitters
Link to Mike Fast on pitchers vs. hitters
Link to Jim Albert on pitchers vs. hitters
Link to Cyril Morong on pitchers vs. hitters
Link to list of oldest living players
Link to Shantz’s SABR bio
Link to John Hiller EW episode
Link to Shantz vs. HoFers data
Link to MLB-average heights by year
Link to Stathead short-pitchers leaderboard
Link to Stathead light-pitchers leaderboard
Link to Stathead P/CF games
Link to 1957 WS G2 broadcast
Link to 1960 WS G7 video
Link to Colt 45s opener video
Link to Shantz stem-cell-treatment video
Link to SABRCast Kaat episode
Link to MLB.com story on Kaat and Shantz
Link to pics of Shantz on Shantz Day
Link to more pics of Shantz on Shantz Day
Link to even more pics of Shantz on Shantz Day
Link to photo of Shantz and Bender
Link to story on Shantz’s CF appearance
Link to SABR on Shantz’s no-hit relief game
Link to 14-inning-game article
Link to info on estimated pitch counts
Link to Shantz vs. Maxwell results
Link to Stathead pitcher-hitting leaders
Link to article about Shantz and Dykes
Link to retrospective on Shantz’s career
Link to info on Shantz-Gibson almost-trade
Link to list of EW cold call episodes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm counting out time, got a whole thing down my numbers, all those numbers, you can be guidance, |
| 0:10.0 | we're Lord, I need that now, you day of judgments come, and you can bet that I'll be |
| 0:17.0 | resting for this testing, digesting every word the experts say. |
| 0:24.0 | Hello and welcome to the start 1840 of the fact that we, while the Fairground Space |
| 0:28.0 | Bobpog cast brought to you by our Patreon supporters, I'm Meg Rally of Faggraphs, and I'm joined |
| 0:32.0 | as always by Ben Lumberger of the Rier, Ben Haril. |
| 0:35.0 | Well, I've had two days to ponder the most pressing question of our times, which is, which |
| 0:41.0 | is the more impressive accomplishment, a 22 year old rookie throwing a two strike out no |
| 0:46.0 | hitter, or a veteran right handed hitter, turning around and hitting a left handed home run |
| 0:53.0 | in his first left handed play appearance in the majors off of a position player pitcher. |
| 0:59.0 | So many layers, so many wrinkles to consider here. |
| 1:02.0 | The position player pitcher part is like, well, important might be too strong, he still |
| 1:08.0 | hit a home run hitting left handed, but it is a caveat, right? |
| 1:12.0 | It is an asterisk to add, even if it is not the decisive one. |
| 1:17.0 | Yeah, that sure was the thing that happened in baseball. |
| 1:20.0 | That happened about two seconds after we posted our preceding episode, and then I was like, |
| 1:24.0 | oh no, we got to get back on the mic to discuss this important occurrence. |
| 1:29.0 | That game was wild. |
| 1:30.0 | Yeah. |
| 1:31.0 | So the angels beat the raise 12 to nothing on Tuesday night, read Debtmer's the 22 year old |
| 1:38.0 | through a no hitter for the angels, not only did he throw no hitter, but he threw no hitter |
| 1:43.0 | with two strikeouts, which was very strange the first time that anyone had done that since |
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