Effectively Wild Episode 1825: Boom, Ghosted
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley
4.7 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 19 March 2022
⏱️ 86 minutes
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Summary

Ben Lindbergh and Meg Rowley banter about new details about Freddie Freeman and Kris Bryant’s contracts, Stat Blast about players not touching the ball, and then (18:59) bring on Effectively Wild listener and Patreon supporter Kevin Brotzman to discuss being an Orioles fan and season-ticket holder and answer listener emails about whether Goodhart’s law will apply to WAR figures used in the new CBA, updating baseball terminology to be more inclusive, fans bragging about their teams’ titles, abandoning A’s fandom, and adjusting stats for the universal DH.
Audio intro: Jim White, “Fighting My Ghosts Again”
Audio outro: The Bees, “These Are the Ghosts”
Link to ESPN on Freeman’s deal
Link to story about Bryant’s introduction
Link to Stat Blast data
Link to Kevin’s Orioles numbers site
Link to Kevin’s Orioles cards site
Link to Rosenthal on Correa
Link to Camden Chat on Correa
Link to Trezza tweet
Link to Apstein tweets
Link to Goodhart’s law wiki
Link to Ben on pitcher deception
Link to “manager” etymology
Link to ICC “batter” story
Link to Ben on league quality
Link to cosmic distance ladder wiki
Link to Russell on DH penalties
Link to Suzuki video
Link to FanGraphs transaction roundup
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| 0:00.0 | Hey what's up everybody? Someone calling me the day of a space case |
| 0:08.0 | No step off here now, the big city I'm a square, got my mind wrapped up |
| 0:15.0 | Your superman is changing my back and my ghost again |
| 0:20.0 | Yeah, I was riding my ghost again |
| 0:24.0 | Oh, I'm back and my ghost again |
| 0:28.0 | Hello and welcome to episode 1825 of Effectively Wild, a fancraft space ball podcast brought to you by Patreon supporters, I'm Egg Rally of fancrafts, and I'm joined as always by Ben Lindberger of the Ringer |
| 0:39.0 | Ben, how are you? |
| 0:40.0 | I'm doing well, a little relieved to reach the end of an eventful week |
| 0:45.0 | Apologies to Tyler Anderson and Luke Voight, but there haven't been any additional huge moves that we have to discuss today |
| 0:53.0 | Although we did get a few tidbits about deals that we already discussed apparently a significant chunk of Freddy Freemans contract with the Dodgers is deferred over 2028 through 2040 |
| 1:06.0 | Which is not unusual for the Dodgers, but evidently brings the real value of the deal down to about 140 million |
| 1:14.0 | Which is basically what the Braves were reported to have offered him over five years instead of six, so makes it even more curious really |
| 1:23.0 | We talked about that a little less time with the different tax rates in Georgia and California and how he ended up not really making much more money than he would have by taking that Braves deal |
| 1:33.0 | Seems like if anything, he may have made less in present-day dollars |
| 1:37.0 | So that whole situation, it's just surprising that it played out that way and there's a big buster-only feature about it in which Freemans is not quoted, but Chipper Jones is extensively quoted and other sources |
| 1:50.0 | And really sounds like this was not what Freemans set out to do or necessarily wanted to happen and things just played out this way |
| 1:58.0 | Yeah, I mean, well, I guess we should say like Chipper Jones also works for the praise |
| 2:02.0 | Yes, he does |
| 2:03.0 | Right, you know, there's that to the consider. I mean, I think that Freeman had been pretty clear from the jump that he wanted six years |
| 2:10.0 | I know that the deferral kind of complicates how we interpret that, but it sounds like he wanted six and Atlanta never offered him that |
| 2:17.0 | No, they didn't really reach out that extensively over the offseason prior to the lockout or even in the days following it |
| 2:26.0 | So I don't know man, he gets to the side where he wants to go and if feeling like he was in demand was important to him and he felt badly about not being offered that six years |
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