So everybody, fake and live, don't give it to those forgiving, all those men and the women who get our funds, so can us try hard.

Hello and welcome to episode 1816 of the Vyton 3 Wild, a fat grass baseball podcast brought to you by our Patreon supporters.

I'm Meg Raleigh, Vyton Raskin, and I'm joined as always by Beth Lumberg of Warrior, Beth Noreal.

I'm Tenter Hooks, one way to put it. We're recording on late Friday afternoon, early Friday evening, depending on the timezone.

We've been waiting and waiting to see if there would be any notable updates from today's talks between MLB and the MLBPA. And as of yet, there have not been, if there are big updates after we speak, maybe I can slip in an update before I post this, but it seems as if there has been a busy day of meetings.

It is not yet clear as we speak whether there will be any actual productive outcome from those talks, but there have been at least three or four meetings. There's a whole gaggle of reporters just stationed down there in Florida, seemingly just like observing people walking from one room to another.

Evangelic is tweeting four second videos of Rob Manfred walking from one building into another building. It's exciting stuff.

Yeah, I mean, I'm glad folks are getting their steps in. It's important to be active more around, you know.

Feel your body, but yeah, it does seem kind of silly as an endeavor, which I don't say has a knock on any of the reporters who are there.

This is what they have to do while they wait to see something more substantive, and here's something more substantive.

We should always take a moment to appreciate that one of the people involved in this whole thing is named Morgan Sword.

Like, you know, sword is a last name. We probably haven't talked enough about that just as a human phenomena. So yeah, we've watched people moving back and forth across parking lots.

We got our first wild men for exciting of this phase of the negotiations. Obviously he's been present for others.

We're waiting. I'm hoping, Ben, I'm hoping that what is going to happen here is that because I asked that we just record already, because I'm very tired, that we will record this segment.

And we will go our separate ways. You will, I'm sure, go engage with your lovely wife and tend to your daughter. I will go fall asleep on the couch.

And then maybe we'll get a resolution to this whole thing and we'll feel silly for having recorded, but I think that we will have played an important role.

You know, we will have contributed something to the process here. So that's what I'm hoping.

This is a document of what it was like in those hours of writing to see whether there would be a deal or no deal forever.

Yeah, if you were to graph my level of optimism about whether there will be a season and whether that season will start on time going back a number of months, it would probably look like one of the wilder win expectancy charts, right?

Because for a while there, I was pretty optimistic, not that I've been reporting directly on these issues, but just going off the general vibe of what people in the industry seem to think leading up to the expiration of the CBA. It seemed like they'll work this out.

They're not so far apart on fundamental core issues and everyone knows how much is it. Stay here.

So I was feeling fairly good about things as I think many people were then the CBA expired and suddenly there was no deadline anymore and it was all pretty nebulous and then weeks and more than a month went by before MLP even made a proposal.

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