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Hello and welcome to episode 1810 of Effectively Wild.

I'm Ben Lumberger of the Ringer.

Ben how are you?

Not too bad.

Good and we are also joined today by Joe Sheen.

I'm the Joe Sheen newsletter.

Hello Joe.

Hey man, good to talk to you.

Yeah, good to talk to you too.

Thanks for joining us.

How's your walk out going?

I did not.

I think we did a thing on Slack.

Everybody guessing the date point out their number.

And I said February 25th.

And until fairly recently, until the mediator, you know, a new cycle, I still thought that was possible.

And now I, well, don't.

We're recording this on Friday and you know, we'll see what happens on Saturday with the offer.

I'm not terribly optimistic, but I now believe we're probably going through the Chunk of Spring training and maybe even some games.

I underestimated the owner's resolve to win, despite they're not being very much on the table at this time.

Yeah, I think that they may have underestimated the players' resolve also.

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