Effectively Wild Episode 1776: How Can You Not Be Romantic About Baseball?
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley
4.7 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 24 November 2021
⏱️ 88 minutes
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Summary

Ben Lindbergh talks to baseball writer and romance novelist KD Casey about Unwritten Rules, her new romance novel about catchers and catcher framing, focusing on her history as a fan and writer, the intersection of sports and romance fiction, fictionalizing MLB teams, delivering details about baseball without alienating readers who aren’t fans, the ethics of dating a teammate, why MLB still hasn’t had a publicly out active player, the legacy of Glenn Burke, whether it’s harder to write baseball scenes or sex scenes, picking the cover model for a baseball romance novel, calibrating readers’ romance expectations, and more. Then (1:08:22) Ben brings on Baseball Prospectus author Gerald Schifman to discuss his latest research into whether shadows creeping across the field actually affect offensive performance.
Audio intro: Julian Lennon, “Kiss Beyond the Catcher”
Audio interstitial: Dion, “In and Out of the Shadows”
Audio outro: Great Lake Swimmers, “Catcher Song“
Link to Unwritten Rules publisher page
Link to Unwritten Rules Goodreads page
Link to KD’s website
Link to all of KD’s books
Link to KD’s social media landing page
Link to KD on Jewish families
Link to vote in Reads Rainbow Awards
Link to Ben’s 2013 framing piece
Link to most-read Goodreads baseball books
Link to Goodreads baseball romance books
Link to Emma Span on baseball slash fiction
Link to Billy Beane/Theo Epstein story
Link to podcast about Pitch
Link to retrospective Pitch piece
Link to EW episode with Billy Bean
Link to story about Burke
Link to Burke bio Singled Out
Link to excerpt from Burke bio
Link to Andrew Maraniss on Burke
Link to True Blue LA interview about Burke
Link to The Athletic interview about Burke
Link to Moneyball “romantic” scene
Link to Gerald’s first shadows study
Link to Gerald’s second shadows study
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| 0:30.0 | Hello and welcome to episode 1776, another effectively wild A-Baseball podcast from |
| 0:36.2 | Gamecrafts presented by our Patreon supporters. |
| 0:39.2 | I am VanLinberg of the Ringer, not joined today as I usually am by Meg Rally of Fancrafts, |
| 0:44.4 | Meg is traveling for Thanksgiving. |
| 0:46.3 | I haven't almost 8-week old baby at home, so I am not traveling for Thanksgiving, and |
| 0:50.7 | therefore I am with you today. |
| 0:52.4 | Meg will be back tomorrow, and we will be discussing the Wander Franco extension and the Kendall |
| 0:56.7 | Gravement deal in the next 4 episodes of Stove League, and who knows what else. |
| 1:01.1 | But in Meg's absence, I will be doing 2 interviews, with 2 authors of 2 pieces of recent writing |
| 1:07.0 | about baseball that I quite enjoyed. |
| 1:09.2 | Later in the episode, I will be bringing on Gerald Schiffman of baseball perspectives to |
| 1:13.0 | discuss his research published on Tuesday about whether shadows on the field actually matter. |
| 1:18.8 | You hear broadcasters talk about this every October, as the shadows creep from behind the |
| 1:23.8 | mound to home plate. |
| 1:27.4 | Back in the subject, he came up with an interesting answer, so he'll be here a little later on. |
| 1:56.2 | Even if you have any curiosity about romance novels in general and how they intersect with |
| 2:00.0 | sports, this will be a great introduction to that topic. |
| 2:03.3 | So let's get going. |
| 2:04.5 | Back in May, I got a message from my guest today, Katie Casey, who was asking me for permission |
| 2:11.1 | to use a quote of mine from a Grantland article back in 2013 about pitchframing as an epigraph |
| 2:18.0 | for her baseball romance novel called Unwritten Rules. |
| 2:21.8 | And I was flattered, I'm a big epigraph guy, I love using an epigraph, have never been |
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