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Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Effectively Wild Episode 1708: Spinning Out

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley

Sports, Baseball

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2021

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Ben Lindbergh and Meg Rowley banter about Jose Altuve forgoing a home run trot, then break down the details of MLB’s plan to enforce the rules against foreign-substance use starting on June 21, covering the pros and cons of putting that plan into action at midseason and opting to ban all substances, what the effects on offense will be, whether Tyler Glasnow’s injury presages many more arm injuries ahead, a Scott Boras metaphor, and much more. Then (51:07) they bring on EW listener and criminology scholar Josh Beck to explain what the principles of punishment and deterrence can tell us about the efficacy of MLB’s approach to preventing cheating.

Audio intro: John Lennon, "Cold Turkey"
Audio interstitial: Grateful Dead, "Victim or the Crime"
Audio outro: Paul McCartney & Wings, "Spin it On"

Link to video of 2012 Morse homer
Link to video of Altuve homer
Link to details of MLB’s plan
Link to Ben on sticky stuff
Link to Jeff Passan on sticky stuff
Link to Boras statement
Link to info on deterrence
Link to paper on deterrence theory
Link to five findings about deterrence
Link to paper on cheating in baseball

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0:00.0

Prayin' to someone

0:04.0

We meet again

0:08.0

Oh, I'd be a good boy

0:12.0

Please make me well

0:16.0

I promise you ain't a thing

0:20.0

Get me out of this hell

0:22.0

Come take me has got me

0:30.0

Oh, I wanna run

0:36.0

Hello and welcome to episode 1708 of effectively wild a baseball podcast from band grants presented by our

0:44.0

Patreons quarters. I am Benlyn Burke of the ring joined by a neck rally of fake best hello, Nick. Hello. Well, it is sticky stuff all the time

0:52.0

Yet again in pace follow this week and also on this episode

0:56.0

I think we will try to do something a little different next time if news allows but today more sticky stuff and later in this episode

1:04.0

We will be talking to an effectively wild listener Josh Beck who is studying criminology and he emailed us recently to point out some of the intersections

1:12.0

Between the story and his field and how the idea of deterrence in criminology might shape our thinking here about how this might play out

1:22.0

And it was an interesting email and we said well, why don't you just come on the show to talk about it

1:26.0

So we'll be talking to Josh a little later and I want to get into a few reactions to the actual announcement of the policies on Tuesday

1:36.0

But just briefly one thing I meant to mention last time there was another example of an effectively wild hypothetical coming true and happening in a major league baseball game

1:48.0

Which is that Jose Altuve hit a home run and did not do a home run trot which is a question that we fielded recently

1:57.0

Someone asked if eventually we would end up in a world where as is evidently the case in a lot of softball leagues home run hitters just don't take the trot

2:07.0

Whether to save time or because it might be seen as showing up the opponent eventually maybe the home run trot will be phased out and talked about that and about whether we thought that would ever happen

2:19.0

But it did happen here and the circumstances were strange of course, but this was Friday Altuve hit a home run at target field and it was a weird one where it hit off the foul pole but then it ricocheted from the foul pole to a nearby wall and then carrying back to the field

2:39.0

So it was kind of a tough call and the umpires called it foul at first and Altuve by then was rounding second he had made it that far and the umpires said nope foul and so he went back but then there was a replay review

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