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Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Effectively Wild Episode 1640: Ethically Speaking

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley

Sports, Baseball

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2021

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Ben Lindbergh and Meg Rowley break down the six-player blockbuster trade headlined by Francisco Lindor and Carlos Carrasco, touching on Cleveland’s decision to cut costs by dealing two fan favorites and the face of the franchise, how much better Lindor makes the Mets, and more, then banter about NPB ace Tomoyuki Sugano re-signing with the Yomiuri Giants and the latest revelations about the use of foreign substances by MLB pitchers, before bringing on philosophy professors (and Effectively Wild listeners) Justin Coates and Ben Lennertz (53:49) to tackle the ethics of Hall of Fame voting and examine how philosophy can guide voters, the merits of the character clause, how to handle cheaters, the problems of past precedent and differing off-field offenses, and how they would vote.

Audio intro: Margo Price, "Do Right By Me"
Audio interstitial: Paul McCartney and Wings, "Get on the Right Thing"
Audio outro: The Magnetic Fields, "’86 How I Failed Ethics"

Link to Ben on the Lindor deal
Link to Rob Mains on Lindor and Cleveland
Link to story on Steve Cohen
Link to Kyodo News story on Sugano
Link to Jim Allen on Sugano
Link to Harkins foreign substance story
Link to Ben on foreign substances
Link to EW interview about foreign substances
Link to Ken Rosenthal’s Hall of Fame ballot
Link to story about Schilling’s latest comments
Link to EW interview with Jay Jaffe
Link to Craig Calcaterra on the Hall of Fame

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0:00.0

No less the winter sols, sometimes your mind breaks up

0:05.0

Bars full by the afternoon, then everybody's drunk

0:11.0

Sometimes I look down the road, far aside I'll never see

0:17.0

If you don't grab by yourself, you grab by me

0:22.0

You grab by me

0:25.0

You grab by me

0:28.0

Hello and welcome to episode 1640 of Effectively Wild

0:32.0

A baseball podcast from Vangrass presented by our Patreon supporters

0:36.0

I am a member of the Ringer joined by Meg Raleigh

0:39.0

A Vangrass, hello Meg

0:41.0

Hello

0:42.0

So we've got a bunch to talk about today

0:44.0

We have a Hall of Fame related interview

0:47.0

So, hardly the most pressing moral or ethical quandary of this week in America

0:53.0

But in the baseball world, at least for a while, there was much more moral hand-dringing about the Hall of Fame

1:01.0

We talked about it last week, we talked about it with Jay Jaffee as well

1:05.0

But Ken Rosenthal released his ballot this week and he wrote

1:09.0

So many of my choices were people of questionable character, I called it my hold, my nose ballot

1:14.0

But the more I think about it, the sick to my stomach ballot would be a more accurate description

1:18.0

I voted out of obligation and ended up feeling like I did the wrong thing, not knowing what the right thing was

1:24.0

And he went on to say, I'm just frustrated, frustrated with the inconsistencies we cannot avoid

1:29.0

The false equivalencies we create, the rationalizations that require leaps and logic

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