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Say something to look forward to Moving on I'll give you something to look forward to

Hello and welcome to episode 1328 of Effectively Wild a baseball podcast from

Vangrass presented by our Patreon supporters, I'm Ben Limberg of the

Ringer joined by Jeff Sullivan of Vangrass, no Jeffs. Sometimes you say a

fan-grapes baseball podcast sometimes you say a baseball podcast from

Vangrass and I don't know which one is more standard because when you say a

baseball podcast from Vangrass brought to you by our Patreon's board is it

sounds like we have multiple sponsors we have one sponsor this patreon we're

Vangrass doesn't. Vangrass doesn't put us up we pull ourselves up by the bootstraps

and also by patreon mostly. Vangrass doesn't pay me, Vangrass pays you so we're

sort of presented by both I suppose in a way just trying to keep things interesting. So

today we have two guest segments, two interviews and we're going way back in history. This is

going to be an old timey baseball episode because nothing is happening in new timey baseball.

So we're just doing some time travel today. So later in the episode we will be talking to

a longtime listener as well as the commissioner of a vintage baseball league in southern California.

So you've all seen the Conan O'Brien video of people who are playing using vintage uniforms

and vintage rules. This is one of those. It's a new league in southern California playing under

1886 rules and we will talk about why and how that's different. But before that I will be talking to

author Chris Ends. Now you've been traveling through the past couple days which is why we have not

put out a podcast yet this week and unfortunately you were not able to join me for that interview

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