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Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Effectively Wild Episode 1310: Pool Party

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley

Sports, Baseball

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2018

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Ben Lindbergh and Jeff Sullivan banter about the Astros’ signing of Michael Brantley, the curious cases of blocked prospects Kyle Tucker and Alex Verdugo, the Mets’ signing of Wilson Ramos, and the unique career of globe-trotting Trey Hillman. Then (20:49) they talk to Charlie Olson, co-founder and CEO of Pando Pooling, about his company’s plan to provide a security net for poorly paid minor-league players by pooling their future earnings, how they approach players and whether the service is an easy sell, how it works and where the concept came from, what type of players tend to take the company up on its offer, how Pando ensures that the terms are upheld, what might change in the future, other industries where pooling might make sense, and more.

Audio intro: Tonedeff, "Safety First"
Audio interstitial: Real Estate, "Pool Swimmers"
Audio outro: Camera Obscura, "Swimming Pool"

Link to Ben’s article about Hillman
Link to Pando site
Link to SI piece about Pando
Link to Big League Advance episode
Link to Agostinelli episode

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0:00.0

Quick fast down trash clown, you couldn't put up your dukes if I'm glove or half

0:04.8

Sousa roll off, the Jess holder horses for you go start in that snow, your roll bitch

0:10.0

Home deft shabapa, Sousa roll shit remember that you may hit her, say he first

0:15.3

Sousa roll off, the Jess holder horses for you go start in that snow, your roll bitch

0:20.5

Home deft shabapa, Sousa roll shit remember that you may hit her, say he first

0:25.8

Hello and welcome to episode 1310 of Effectively Wild, a baseball podcast from Fandras

0:32.6

presented by our Patreon supporters. I am Ben Lindbergh of the ringer joined by Jeff Sullivan

0:38.2

of Fandcrafts. Hello, hey Ben, we have a guest later in this episode, we will be talking

0:43.7

to Charlie Olson who is the co-founder and CEO of a company called Pando Pooling that

0:50.8

is yet another company that has been conceived to try to pay minor leagers since teams have

0:57.7

opted not to. This one is a little bit different from Big League Advance, the company we talked

1:03.5

to some months ago. That one was essentially upfront, you got a payment and then if you

1:08.7

make money later, then you pay the company some percentage of your earnings. This one

1:13.9

is a bunch of players essentially pool their futures and construct their own safety net

1:19.4

so that if one guy makes it, then the company and the players in that pool end up taking

1:25.1

a portion of the salary he makes and everyone who washes out just gets to kind of feed off

1:30.8

of that guy's success. So it's another innovative solution that people are just putting forth

1:37.3

here because the game itself is not currently a solution for paying minor leagers.

1:42.3

Yeah, although I guess unlike with something like Big League Advance, in either case, of

1:48.2

course, if there were changes to the minor league pay structure, then the circumstances would

1:52.9

be different. But even in a case such as this one, as we'll talk about later, even if

1:57.8

minor leagers were guaranteed more money, that doesn't mean that they wouldn't be interested

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