Hello and welcome to episode 1303 of Effectively Wild, a baseball podcast from band graphs presented

by our Patreon supporters. I am Ben Nmberg of the Ringer joined by Jeff Sullivan of band graphs. Hello. Hey Ben, you've been traveling, which is why we are recording later on a Friday, then we typically would. And in your absence, the stove has gotten somewhat warm. There are things happening. Last time we were talking about how nothing was happening. And now there's a long list. There are about 10 new MLB trade rumors posts just from today. And it's interesting because all you

really need, I know there's a bunch of stuff going on and like, I don't know, the podrys I had to get it richards. And maybe that makes a difference. But like all you need is one trade that is rumored to be close. And then it just never f'ing gets to the finish line. And then it feels like things are really, really busy. Even though it's like the the mets in the maritus have this trade that it's not like it's stagnant and by it for all I know by the time that anyone listens to this, it will have become official. But like with something like this, just kind of hanging over everyone's head. Feels like the stove is really, really hot. Even if nothing is happening,

which I'm sure it is and I'm sure the mariners have like seven other moves that they intend to make as soon as this domino falls. Yeah, well the mariners did make an actual trade before that trade was completed. Right. They traded Alex Colomay to the White Sox for Omar Narvayez. No one is all that interested in that one. Although that has a fangress post of its own. So it was worthy to someone. But well, I wouldn't dismiss it because Omar Narvayez will be featured in this week's hap hasred saplings for the race.

The reasons that made him available presumably by the white socks to the mariners for a contract year mediocre relief pitcher. Okay, then Omar Narvayez will be talked about too. But we should talk about the move that is being made as we speak has not been finalized seems like medicals are still going through and maybe money is being finalized. But it was dominating baseball news this week. And it's hard even to say exactly what the trade looks like.

It's changed the way that it looks a number of times. I don't know why this move has been negotiated in such a public fashion, whereas there are a lot of trades and signings that happen with zero warning. And we're all taken by surprise. And the first time we talk about them, we're talking about the completed transaction, whereas this one we're going through many permutations of this trade and it's been a days long process. So the big takeaway here is that the mariners seem to be trading. Robinson can know.

And Edwin Diaz to the New York Metz and the Metz are then sending back a number of players in this trade and there's money changing hands to so I guess we should just say what the latest incarnation of this is right that you have the all the names in front of you.

Okay, so it's Edwin Diaz and Robinson can now going to the Metz that's easy and then coming from the Metz to the mariners help me out here because I don't have the names in front of you directly. But we've got Jay Bruce.

That's easy. Yes.

Jason Batista. That's easy. Anthony Swarsak. That's easy. And then there's a how are we pronouncing these?

Kellenic, I think Jared Kellenic. Kellenic, we'll go with Kellenic. Kellenic and Justin Dunn. I've decided that I think with I think there's like three distinct pronunciations of Kellenic. So I'm going to just I'm going to provide all of them. Yeah. So.

Okay. It could be like Eastern European Kellenic, but it's probably not. So Jared Kellenic and Justin Dunn would be the fourth or fifth pieces. But realistically, the first and second pieces in this trade.

This is a trade where obviously like Robinson cano has baseball players go with a household name and he's not the centerpiece of this trade by a long shot. But it is interesting that by acknowledging that it's easy to miss the fact that Robinson cano is actually still like super good.

So there is a lot here to break down. We could spend an hour talking about this trade that isn't even official yet. I've been trying to write my head around in between travels and everything that I've been up to. But it is. I have gone in so many different and we didn't even know the final structure of the deal because we don't know how much money the Mariners are sending along.

Right. I just important. Right. I would assume just there was a rumor. I forgot where it came from. But there was a rumor. The Mariners were sending like $60 million dollars along with Kano which was too much.

But my best guess is that probably included like the J. Bruce and Anthony Swarzak dead money which would mean if you wanted to bump that up to 60 then the Mariners had like 20 or 25 million along with Kano.

And I have at different times in the last 24 hours loved the Mariners side of this like the Mets side of this and wound up where I am right now of like this is a really interesting trade that I can't tell if it's like good or bad.

I have. I don't have a hard opinion except for I never expected a trade like this to happen. I never thought that Robinson Kano could be moved.

Yeah. This is a really weird one. And I agree in the earlier incarnations of this that we heard of. I mean on the ringers slack there we have a lot of Mets fans and they were up in arms initially they were revolting just at this trade because it seemed like McNeil was in it.

And when when he was in it then it really seemed strange because Jeff McNeil is like basically as good as Robinson Kano at this point or projected to be kind of in the same neighborhood and he is also 26 and a rookie and cheap and it just seemed very strange to be sending McNeil and getting Kano back but McNeil is not in the trade from what we understand now.

So that definitely changes things and Robinson Kano he has five years left on his deal at 24 million per year. So that's a sizeable chunk of money 120 million dollars.

And as you noted I think the thing that people are maybe not appreciating is just how good Robinson Kano has been which has made this deal even in the realm of plausibility.

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