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Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Effectively Wild Episode 1228: Dangerous DH Ideas

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley

Sports, Baseball

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2018

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

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After Ben Lindbergh briefly mourns the Shohei Ohtani injury news, he and Jeff Sullivan banter about the…impassioned response to Ben’s article about the DH and pitcher hitting, a few DH-related fallacies, Steven Brault’s bullpen conversation, the newly patient Pablo Sandoval, the effective wildness of Tyler Chatwood, and the effective non-wildness of Miles Mikolas, follow up on the Vroom Vroom Guy and an ugly half-inning, and answer listener emails about the Alex Reyes injury, the historic struggles of Chris Davis, Jacob DeGrom’s hard luck, the breakout of Brandon Nimmo, immaculate innings vs. three-pitch innings, a “Mike Trout meets J.R. Smith” hypothetical, a Cubs kids’ book, how to describe complete games, eight-man lineups, and constructing a roster where pitchers never hit, plus a Stat Blast about hitters who’ve reached on catcher’s interference twice in one game and a dramatic reading of anti-DH tweets.

Audio intro: Loose Fur, "You Were Wrong"
Audio outro: Built to Spill, "You Were Right"

Link to Ben’s pitcher hitting article
Link to Joe Posnanski’s DH article
Link to Jeff’s Pablo Sandoval article
Link to Troy Carter’s Vroom Vroom Guy chronicles
Link to Troy’s Vroom Vroom video
Link to list of immaculate innings
Link to list of three-pitch innings
Link to list of games like the one described in Good Night, Cubs
Link to Travis Sawchick’s “spread of the opener” article
Link to Deadspin’s article about the EW Facebook group
Link to Arthur Rudolph’s data on EW episode length

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0:00.0

A quick, reluctant note before we begin.

0:02.2

Baseball's Friday news dump was brutal today.

0:04.7

We've learned that Shohei O'Connie would be going on the disabled list, not just with a blister,

0:08.8

but with a grade 2 sprain of his ulnar collateral ligament.

0:12.0

He also received a PRP and stem cell injection.

0:14.8

I don't have to tell you that this is pretty terrible news about a player whose success has been one of the highlights of the season.

0:20.3

According to analyst John Rojelle's records,

0:22.5

16 of the 33 pictures who had PRP injections eventually had Tommy John's surgery,

0:27.9

and the track record for pictures who had stem cell injections for UCL injuries is perhaps even worse.

0:33.2

All of them either missed many months or had Tommy John's surgery or both.

0:36.6

So O'Connie won't do anything for three weeks, he'll be re-evaluated,

0:40.0

and we'll see whether he can avoid becoming another distressing statistic.

0:43.5

Of course, the news is not shocking, in that O'Connie is a picture,

0:46.8

and a picture who throws extremely hard,

0:48.8

and already had a UCL strain and a PRP injection last year,

0:52.5

but he's so much fun that we all hope this could be avoided.

0:55.1

If he does ultimately have Tommy John's surgery, he won't hit while he's hurt.

0:58.8

And if that happens, we'd likely be looking at him missing 2019 too.

1:02.9

So we will wait and worry.

1:04.5

But these concerns had not yet surfaced when we recorded the episode you're about to hear.

1:08.6

So for the next hour plus, please enjoy a podcast that was recorded in happier times,

1:13.1

when a blister was the worst of our worries.

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