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🗓️ 19 January 2017
⏱️ 62 minutes
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0:00.0 | The long haul is as heavy as the time's, the visitation realises, the ghosts are there in them, a polo-shiming eyes. |
0:12.0 | The long haul holds its memories, the lights and the casualties, the songs of wearing wind, a laughter and disease. |
0:23.0 | Hello and welcome to episode 1,000-8 of Effectively Wild, the baseball podcast from Femographs presented by our Patreon supporters. |
0:31.0 | I'm Ben Lindbergh of the Ringer, joined by Jess Sullivan of Femographs, H.F. Hi, hello. |
0:35.0 | So we got Hall of Fame voting announcements and results just before we started recording and as you all know, there are three new Hall of Famers and that's nice. |
0:44.0 | That's nice, they're all good players, players I would have voted for if I'd had the opportunity and in some cases players who waited a long time for this honor. |
0:53.0 | And I think that's always the thing that strikes me when one of these guys who's just kind of been like a cause for saber matricians or has been on the ballot for 10 years, like Tim Reigns, you've been doing this whole baseball thing longer than I have, but Tim Reigns being an underappreciated Hall of Fame candidate who wasn't getting as many votes as he should have. |
1:13.0 | Is really a constant for my entire career, basically. I guess 2008 was when I first started doing some stuff occasionally for baseball perspectives and that was his first year on the ballot too. |
1:27.0 | Tim Reigns just being underappreciated is just been a constant for as long as I have been writing or talking about baseball and now suddenly he is a Hall of Famer. |
1:38.0 | So that's cool. Now that's not even something we have to debate or talk about anymore. |
1:43.0 | Yeah, it feels like his case is just a true testament to the passionate work of one Jonah Carey and obviously there are several people who have been supporting Tim Reigns. |
1:52.0 | But I think you know with the Hall of Fame announcement, but also with Ryan Thibidos tracker, like a lot of the suspense has been removed from these announcements because we have a side from like I guess the Trevor Hoffman case where he missed by one percentage point. |
2:06.0 | Yeah, that was going to be a toss up and and Pajar Dregas is going to be a toss up. But otherwise like we knew we knew a while ago that Tim Reigns was going to make it this year. |
2:14.0 | In fact, you could even argue we knew last year he was going to make it this year because last year he got 69.8% of the vote. |
2:19.0 | So the suspense isn't really there and so these things are a little more interesting in sort of maybe big picture or top down perspectives where you look at Tim Reigns and his first two three years on the ballot. |
2:31.0 | This is just a decade ago. He got less than a quarter of the vote and then less than a quarter of the vote and then 30% of the vote. |
2:38.0 | Those are his first three years and I don't know much about the voting precedent and players like that getting in but some were around there is when I think Jonah Kerry turned it up beyond even 11 and it worked. |
2:50.0 | And that's really impressive and as much as I guess I haven't been in the position yet where someone I'm really passionate about has made the Hall of Fame in large part because I'm not that passionate about anybody and the Hall of Fame. |
3:04.0 | But like this day his it seems as much about Jonah's happiness as it does Tim Reigns' happiness and I could not be more delighted for for Jonah and this victory because I think you get often enough to you you go to bed at night as a baseball writer and you think what am I doing and and this is at least one thing that the Jonah did more than anybody else, although I guess maybe Tim Reigns deserves the bulk of the credit. |
3:29.0 | But you know Jonah's a distant second. Yeah Jonah would definitely downplay his impact here. I'm sure whether he had a significant one or not. I'm sure he did. He would probably say that he wasn't the one that people should be congratulating because Reigns just got in and you know like I'm sure that if we could somehow remove Jonah from the equation. |
3:50.0 | Reigns would have done better over time like I have no way to quantify the Jonah effect. He was on my other podcast and he was talking about how he is literally just like taken undecided voters out to lunch and like emailed them and gone back and forth with them and tried to persuade them and I'm sure that that's had a significant effect in some cases. |
4:12.0 | And you know I think Reigns would have benefited from just the larger trends in the electorate and the way that people evaluate players and the larger trends that have affected just that sort of player who has been more appreciated by advanced that's and people who appreciate advanced that's but yeah I don't know if you strip out Jonah and his boundless enthusiasm and energy on this topic. |
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