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Greetings mobile accomplishers, welcome to the Vergecast. My name is Dieter Bohn,

and you are listening to our special series of Topic-specific Tuesday episodes.

This week, the topic is ERO, and that's because we are bringing you an interview that Neal-Aipatel and I did with the CEO of ERO Nick Weaver.

We have this interview back at our 10-year anniversary party conference festival thing called The Verge in New York City.

It was a ton of fun, it was a huge blast, and so we're happy to bring some of the things that happened at this event to you if you couldn't make it out to the party.

But if you could, thanks so much for coming, it was great to see you.

Anyway, with this interview with Nick, I want you to pay special attention to the pieces where we begin to talk about Thread and Matter.

So Thread, if you're not familiar with it, is a kind of radio for smart home devices that ERO in particular,

but a lot of people in general have been hyping for several years now, but never seems to amount anything.

But it seems like it's actually about to become super important.

And it's about to become super important because there is another smart home standard called Matter,

which is the standard that used to be known as connected home over IP, or you could have called it the chip,

or you could call it choy if you wanted to be a weirdo like me.

Anyway, it's the standard that's supposed to make smart home gadgets all talk to each other.

And ERO's whole jam is connecting things in your home.

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