All right, it's me Russell Brand, look on under skin from Luminary. It's a big and exciting

episode with Edward Snowden. He's a renowned whistleblower and former computer intelligence

consultant who worked for the CIA and the NSA. He copied and leaked highly classified information

from the NSA in 2013 when he was a CIA employee. His disclosures revealed numerous global

surveillance programs many run by the NSA and the Five Eyes Intelligence Alliance, which

I think is a sort of like, they're trying to have fun. Hey, we're the Five Eyes, we're

the cooperation of telecommunication companies and European governments. Edward no longer lives

in the US since his passport was revoked and they became clear they can plan to murder him.

He's still waiting to see if he'll be allowed to return. He's written a book about his

life called permanent record, Nice, which is available now. And I hope you've had a look

at some of those clips on YouTube of us talking to him and me analyzing what it's respectively

of this conversation because I didn't want to interrupt him at the time. Although, mates

of mine have said it is a good discourse, but I've not had a single compliment from my

producer and co-worker and colleague. There you go, Jen. The compliment about what? The

style of the attract. You know, you've got your new styles in the last year. What new

styles? A tentative listening. It's pretty good isn't it? The old new style. But why

is it different forms of listening? Isn't just one hearing. What do you mean? You obviously

been thinking about this on your own and one of your long car journeys are in terminable

stretches of solitude in your grim little dwelling by the sea. I almost said your picture

of my run. You went up what? I almost said your picture of my run. I went on the first

round for a year yesterday. Well, I ran it up from my MOT, but it was along the beach.

Why? We've been dumped for fraud. You ran home from MOT. Why did you sprint away from

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