Edward Snowden: Hero, Traitor or Spy?

The Book Review

The New York Times

Books, Arts

4.2 • 3.7K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2017

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Nicholas Lemann talks about Edward Jay Epstein's "How America Lost Its Secrets: Edward Snowden, the Man and the Theft," and James Ryerson discusses new books about how to be civil in an uncivil world.

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0:00.0	Edward Snowden, a Russian spy.
0:05.2	If he had been a spy, the unexplained things would be explained.
0:09.1	Nicholas Leman will be here to talk about Edward J. Epstein's controversial new book
0:13.5	about Snowden, How America Lost Its Secrets.
0:16.5	But he never can actually prove something.
0:19.4	Is civility a lost cause?
0:21.0	I didn't at all think that it was going to be a topic for the column because civility
0:25.2	seemed like a fairly niche topic.
0:27.2	Our Backpage Ivory Tower columnist James Ryerson will join us to talk about three new books
0:32.4	about the art and limits of civil discourse.
0:35.3	Before I knew it, I saw another book that had civility in the title and then kept looking
0:39.2	and I found another book.
0:40.2	You know, that's how this particular column, for instance, took form.
0:42.8	Alexander Alter will give us an update from the literary world.
0:45.7	Plus we'll talk about what we and the wider world are reading.
0:49.0	This is Inside the New York Times Book Review.
0:50.8	I'm Pamela Paul.
0:57.2	Nicholas Leman joins us now.
1:07.1	He is a professor of journalism at Columbia University and former dean of the School
1:12.2	of Journalism there, a staff writer for the New Yorker.
1:15.3	And this week he reviews on our cover, New Book, by Edward J. Epstein, called How America
1:21.5	Lost Its Secrets.
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