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Story Grid Writing Podcast

Editor View vs Writer View

Story Grid Writing Podcast

Shawn Coyne

Books, Language Learning, Authors, Education, Story, Publishing, Arts, Creativity, Writing, Fiction Writing

4.8767 Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2019

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 5 of the Masterwork Experiment, Anne continues finding micro beats and scene types in Brokeback Mountain’s middle build, and learns the difference between the Editor’s view of a story and the Writer’s view. Shawn tells her, “Just be inspired as opposed to being literally crazed about making sure you get everything perfect.”

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Storygrid Masterwork Experiment. My name is Anne Hawley, and I'm an experienced

0:06.5

novelist trying to ground my craft more solidly in Story Grid methodology. So I've agreed to be

0:12.6

the lab rat in the Masterwork experiment, which Sean Cohen is conducting as a test of his

0:18.2

latest writing and editing methods. Sean is the creator of the story

0:22.3

grid method, the author of the book, The Story Grid, What Good Editors Know, and an editor with

0:28.3

many years' experience in the big New York publishing houses. In the masterwork experiment,

0:33.7

Sean and I analyze Annie Prue's short novella, Brokeback Mountain, with an eye to understanding

0:39.4

what it's made of right down to the beat level. Then my job will be to write a novella of my own,

0:45.3

using exactly the same beats and structure, but with a different setting, style, and voice.

0:51.5

Last week, we started into the beats of Brokeback Mountain, and I got kind of carried

0:55.5

away at the micro level. So this week, we just keep going and get to about the midpoint of the story.

1:01.8

I was afraid that I was looking at things wrong, too abstractly, too minutely. So Sean identifies

1:08.3

my approach as the writer's view, while the way he looks at a story is from the editor's view.

1:14.1

He gives me a great epigrammatic piece of advice, worthy of embroidering on a pillow or maybe tattooing on my arm.

1:21.5

It's another fun episode, so put on your white coat and safety goggles and step into the laboratory for episode five of the masterwork

1:29.4

experiment. Let's just take a step back and try and ground ourselves of what we're trying to do.

1:37.8

Okay. The whole concept of this experiment is to deconstruct and break down Brokeback Mountain into its constituent

1:48.6

beats, and then to take those beats and use them to inspire your writing a brand new story,

2:05.4

however, following these very, very specific beats and adapting them to the time period and characters that you wish to create yourself.

2:11.6

So the process that we're in right now is we're in the middle of breaking down the beat by beats of the beginning hook of Brokeback Mountain, and we'll probably finish that today.

2:24.3

And then we're going to do the middle build and then the ending payoff.

2:27.4

And then once we have this document for you to work from, then you can begin your work, which is to use these beats as inspirations

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