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Coming to you, in the beginnings of what looks like a mini heat wave here, they're talking

about temperatures nudging into the high 20s Celsius, which is close to 30 degrees Celsius,

which is somewhere in the low 80s Fahrenheit, which for the beginning of June is pretty remarkable

and I wonder if it's the shape of things to come for this summer, who knows, all bets, as they say, are off.

Meaning that things are pretty hot and steamy where I'm recording this, but I hope they're okay, wherever you are.

Now, the topic on this edition of the unexplained, we're going to revisit the conversation that I had

about an hour and a half or two hours after the publication of that bombshell story in the debrief

this week. The latest on that story is this, the Guardian reported, the US House of Representatives

plans to investigate claims that the US government is harboring UFOs after a whistle blower, former

intelligence officer said that the US has possession of intact and partially intact alien vehicles.

James Comer, the Republican Chair of the House Oversight Committee, said the committee would hold

a hearing into claims by David Grouch, who led analysis of unexplained anomalous phenomena, UAPs,

within a US Department of Defense agency, that the government had been collecting non-human

craft for quotes decades. Grouch who left the government in April after a 14-year career in US

intelligence told the debrief that information on these vehicles was being illegally withheld from

Congress. So what I thought I would do is let you hear the whole of that conversation that I recorded

one of the authors of that piece in the debrief Ralph Blumenthal, who along with Leslie Cain,

the people behind the Tick-Tack story in 2017 authored the piece. So I basically phoned Ralph

Blumenthal, he picked up the phone and very kindly agreed to speak with me. So you're going to hear

that first and then two pieces from my TV show, a number one professor Arvy Loeb, Harvard professor

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