Across the UK, across continental North America, and around the world on the internet by webcast

and by podcast, my name is Howard Hughes, and this is the unexplained.

Hope everything is okay with you.

Further north, than where I live, they are gripped by snow, including one of the people I'm

about to speak with Gary Hessell Time.

You will know Gary of course, because I've spoken with him many times on TV, radio and

on the podcast.

We're police detective, vice president of ICER, ISER, the international UFO Extrasrestri

organization, and of course editor of UFO Truth magazine.

He's been affected by the snow so his internet is down, and we're doing this on 4G.

We've tested it.

The results are pretty good.

So we're up for a conversation here about his new book, Non-Human, a totally new take

on the events at Rendlesham Forest at the end of 1980, Twin Air bases in Suffolk.

Remember, one American, one British, and events possibly of an extraterrestrial and highly

bizarre nature that happened there, that seem to have been covered up for decades.

There's a forward to this book, Non-Human by Don Schmidt of Kosuys, very, very well known

legendary, in the Roswell panoply of material.

So this is a good book that is just out, and I think this may be the first interview about

it that Gary has done.

I like the book.

It has the methodical touch of a police officer.

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