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The Unexplained With Howard Hughes

Edition 620 - Dr Grover Proctor - Oswald's Call

The Unexplained With Howard Hughes

Howard Hughes

News

4.72.5K Ratings

🗓️ 14 March 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Dr Grover B Proctor Jr - who has spent more than 40 years investigating a phone call forgotten by history - he asks the question who was it Lee Harvey Oswald - accused of killing JFK - tried to phone from his cell the night before he was shot dead? It is a mystery that has been sidelined by history but which goes right to the heart of the case and the controversy...

Transcript

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Across the UK, across continental North America, and around the world on the internet by webcast and by podcast,

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my name is Howard Hughes and this is the unexplained.

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Well I'll tell you something, in the midst of the horror and term while this world is going through at the moment,

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it was actually here in London today a really beautiful day. For most of it the sun was shining bright and rather warm too.

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The sky was blue and I took the bike out into the park and just had a little ride round at a sandwich,

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drank a bottle of water, looked at the grass and the trees and the deer and thought to myself, how beautiful is this?

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And I tried as far as I could to put out of my mind the thoughts of everything else that is happening at the moment.

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And I know from my email inbox that a lot of you are affected by these things, for reasons that I can completely understand.

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On my radio show on Sunday last as I record these words, I had a very famous psychologist on Professor Sir Kerry Cooper who I've known for years.

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And we talked about ways that people could cope with all of the things that are going on at the moment and we came out with or rather he came out with the idea that you can only control the things that you can control in your own sphere.

1:19.0

And beyond that you maybe have to turn off the news and disconnect from it because you cannot control the things that are happening in the name.

1:29.0

It's a runaway train if it is a runaway train and you know we're not in the driving seat.

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And I've tried to take some of that on board although I'm a news guy and I have to follow the news.

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And I've tried to turn it off from time to time and just before I recorded this I turned off the news and just sat in the near silence and really benefited from that.

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So maybe we all need to do those things from time to time because we have to realize that there are things in this world that we have no control over and the outcome of those things will be the same whatever we do.

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So I've got to practice what I preach really. It's better to stop worrying about it as far as you possibly can and I know that that is easier said than done but I do understand and thank you very much for the emails and I greatly sympathise with you look here in my little world for the last two years.

2:21.0

Most of the things that I lived my life by have gone out the window.

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I don't even think that I'm the same person that I was two years ago and I'm scared for the future that's myself but I try and put it behind me as far as I can in day to day life because you have to.

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It's the only thing that you can do so maybe you can take some comfort in the fact that if you're going through it at the moment please know that so am I but please spare a thought for those people who are victims at the moment of a war in another part of Europe.

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From where I speak at the moment now what we're going to hear on this edition of the unexplained is a conversation with a man called Dr Grover the proctor junior fascinating conversation about an aspect of the JFK assassination that I had no idea about and I don't think you have heard this story either.

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Lee Harvey Oswald the man they say was the lone gunman which I've never really believed in many many people don't believe either. Place to call or tried to make a call from his cell 12 hours before he himself was shot dead by Jack Ruby.

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Who that call was to and why that call might have been placed is something that Grover proctor junior has researched intensively for more than 40 years it is an astonishing story I don't think you have heard this story we certainly need to hear it now so that's from my radio show Grover proctor and the story of the phone call that Lee Harvey Oswald placed from his prison cell 12 hours before he died.

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