Across the UK, across continental North America, and around the world, on the internet, by webcast, and by podcast, my name is Howard Hughes, and this is the unexplained.

Well, thank you for bearing with me. This edition of the unexplained is very slightly later hitting the internet, the normal, sorry for that, just had a million things to do not only work, trying to make a living, trying to stay fed and clothed.

But also, I've been doing some technical work, including reconfiguring computers to make sure that finally my recording gear is not running on Windows XP.

I don't about you. I liked Windows XP, used it for years, found it completely reliable, but it's not being supported. The last bit of support was stopped, I think, about a week or two ago.

So I realized it was time to get away from that, and everything is on more modern software. And everything is a little happier now.

But at one point, I find myself having to download something like 220, 230 updates. If you've ever done that, you know how long that takes.

So hopefully we're all up to date. But that's what I've been up to. So you're hearing me now via a new computer, and it's all very exciting.

You know, I got my first computer back in 1997, which I bought through the people I was working for at the time, Capital Radio, and it cost a fortune. I spent a year paying off the cost of this.

And it was laughably, laughably punyly specified compared with stuff today.

But for me, it was a quantum leap, and one of the first people I heard listening to Radio on the internet was Art Bell. And from that point, I was hooked.

That's the difference computers make. And now of course I'm producing this show by computer, and all of our lives have changed.

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A return guest on this edition. This man is a former serving police officer who paid a high price for his interest in ufology. Ultimately he decided to leave the police and his job now is to collate UFO reports from people in uniform.

He's a manly police. His name is Gary Heseltine. He's in the north of England. We had him on the radio show and he got a lot of phone calls from listeners back then. And I've had him on the unexplained online at least once. So it's time we got him back on here.

So Gary Heseltine, the guest on this edition. Thank you very much for being involved in the unexplained. This is an interesting time, isn't it, for a whole variety of reasons. And I keep reading the papers and reading the latest report from space.

I don't think certainly since the 1970s or so we've ever had so much space news in our media. What with the photographs, the images coming back from Pluto with NASA giving us details of a planet that is kind of sort of earth like it makes you wonder what we're going to find out next.

But it's a great time to be alive, isn't it? And we just have to see I will do a space show very soon because I think there's an awful lot to update you on. I'm trying to get a good guest for a space show. So watch this space.

Okay, let's get to the north of England now to Yorkshire and Gary Heseltine former police officer from the organization that he created proofos for people in the police to report UFO sightings. And there are more of them than you would think. Gary, thank you very much for coming back on.

Thank you very much for inviting me back. Well, Gary, life's been busy for me and I know it's been busy for you as you've been establishing this organization and also the magazine that I think was new. It had just been born when we last spoke.

That's right. Yeah, UFO truth magazine is 96 page, bi-monthly easing that I created and was launched in June 2013 just three months after retiring from the police at the end of March 2013.

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