Hello and welcome to the Story Grid podcast. This is a show dedicated to helping you become a better

writer. I'm your host Tim Graal and I am a struggling writer trying to figure out how to tell a story

that works. Joining me shortly is Sean Coyne. He is the creator of Story Grid, the author of the

book Story Grid and an editor with over 25 years experience. In this episode, we are

shifting gears a little bit. I have finished up a first draft of a nonfiction book. I've been

working on a while. And so while I'm working on the second draft of my novel, Sean and I are going

to work through the story grid techniques and the story grid tools of moving from first to second

draft in a nonfiction book as well.

So I know a lot of you listening, write nonfiction, want to write nonfiction.

And even for those that are writing fiction, it's always good to hear about the story grid

tools from a different perspective.

So it's a great episode.

It's really eye-opening for me,

and I think you're going to love it. So let's jump in and get started. So Sean, before we dive

into today's topic, I got to tell you something funny. So my wife took my oldest son to see

Wonder Woman over the weekend.

And so spoiler alert, if you haven't watched it, I'm going to spoil a piece of it.

So she starts texting me halfway through the movie.

And she's like, I'm so mad at you.

Your story grids crap has ruined movies for me.

I go, why?

She's like, I knew exactly who was going to die. I was like, it was the mentor, wasn't it? And she's like, yes. But when she got home, we were

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