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Hi, this is William Ramsey.

Welcome to William Ramsey.

Let's be on today's show for your special guest.

His name is David Gossel and G-O-S-S-B-I. And if you listen to my show frequently, he's been on in the past. He's spoken a couple times. This will be, I think, a third episode. you know, came to my attention about a month ago that he and two other people who've been on my show

mat they heard that they're at p h r et and cynthia chan put out a new documentary which i've watched

today i really wanted to watch them i've seen stuff but uh really was fantastic and if you're

you see this on the stream you'll see the

documentary and the full title is edgar al for this final mystery the tale of two

murders and it's really great it's really fascinating a lot of information I didn't

know it's also reappointed me with Edgar Al will focus 40 years ago. I used to have an Edgar Allan Flo

reader. It's a nice big, thick book of all of his readings, and really enjoyed it. And he wrote

on so many different subjects, and he was just way ahead of his time, the first detective stuff.

Looking at it from this different kind of angle, too, the way that they put it together.

I really found just absolutely fascinating.

So I was really happy to watch it.

And I'm happy to have Dave Beck.

So Dave Gosling, welcome back to the show.

Thanks for having me, William.

For people who didn't hear our earlier show, I know that you have a substack and you're working with the, what's the name?

It's the Rising Tide Foundation is also where the documentaries, maybe you can talk a little bit about your background, your association with Matt and Cynthia, and then the research that went into this one.

Yeah, sure. So Age of Muses is now my main platform. And among other

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