Hello, welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller.

I'm glad to welcome back to the show, Professor of African American Studies at Princeton.

He's also an author, public intellectual, and contributor to MS Now. His latest book is out today. It's America, USA, How Race Shadows, the Nation's anniversaries. It's Eddie Glock. How you doing, man? Man, it's good to lay eyes on you. It's good. It's pub day. So I'm happy. I'm excited. All right. Well, thank you for fitting us in on pub day. It's good to see you.

We've got to see you down in person in New Orleans. We've got to do a Mississippi trip together, one of these days. That would be wonderful, one of these days. Take you over to the Gulf Coast. Yeah, the other side. I want to do it with you. All right. Well, obviously, we're going to get into the book, and there's a lot of relevant issues as it relates to the Voting Rights Act, et cetera, about what's happening in our politics.

But before we do that, I'm going to hit on a couple news items.

The latest in Iran, boy, it seems like it's a long way from 95% of the way to a deal to 100% given what we saw last night. U.S. forces carried out attacks on multiple Iranian targets in the Persian Gulf. U.S. sent com called them self-defense strikes. The targets included missile launch sites in Iranian boats that were apparently attempting to place mines in the Strait of Hormuz. That's a little concerning. Iran won this morning. It will respond to last night's attacks. Trump says the ceasefire is still on. Marco says the deal is close the next couple days. Man, it seems like they put the cart before the horse a little bit on this one. That's an understatement. We are in the midst of what it seems to me an escalating quagmire with this war of choice.

I don't know what the off ramp is, Tam, to be honest with you.

And what we get over and over again are these kind of promises.

You know, Trump is the kind of carnival barker of our times, letting us know that this is about

to happen or this will happen, and it doesn't happen.

And it just seems that I don't know how we get out of this.

And at the same time that this is going on, Netanyahu and Israel has decided that it's going to escalate its assault on Lebanon and Hezbollah.

We've already seen over 3,100 people killed over there, over 9,000 people injured. So these are

two sides of this war that don't seem to be in conversation with each other. So we just need to

buckle up because there's no ending, it seems to be clear in sight to me at least.

The new Ayatollah hominae put out a statement that's relating to Israel saying the Jewish

state will not exist in 15 years last night.

This goes to the choice of getting into this and to creating this in the first place.

And like thinking this was going to be easy, thinking you're going to be able to paper over

these like really deep riffs in the region

just with like some reality TV glitz and glamour, you know? And and like, I mean,

I think that it is clear that Trump wants some kind of deal because he doesn't want to be

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