Ed Slott IRA Quiz Continued: EDU #2612
The Retirement and IRA Show
Jim Saulnier, CFP® & Chris Stein, CFP®
4.3 • 729 Ratings
🗓️ 25 March 2026
⏱️ 66 minutes
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Summary
Note: In this episode some information regarding the 5-year rule was misstated – one must get through the fifth, not just be in the fifth year. Jim and Chris clarify on the April 4, 2026 Q&A #2614 episode.
If you would like to skip over Jim and Chris’s banter on the weather, that manages to touch on Colorado water rights (an issue many east of the Mississippi probably find baffling), then you can start listening at (11:45).
Chris’s Summary
Jim and I continue our look through the Ed Slott IRA quiz, covering IRA recharacterization rules, how a surviving spouse may use a deceased spouse’s five year period following a spousal rollover, which IRA funds can roll into an employer plan, and the timing trap that can unravel the strategy of using an employer plan to separate after-tax basis from pre-tax funds.
Jim’s “Pithy” Summary
Chris and I are continuing our run through the Ed Slott IRA quiz — the questions Ed sends out after his twice-yearly training sessions to make sure advisors know not just the right answer but the reasoning behind it. That reasoning is where most people get tripped up, and this episode has several good examples of exactly that.
We start with IRA recharacterization rules — the deadline, what has to happen at the custodian level, how attributable gains or losses factor into the math, and a conversion planning tool that Congress took away in the 2018 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. It was a strategy that made conversion timing far more forgiving than it is today, and the fact that it is gone still stings. From there we get into the Roth IRA five-year rules — specifically a spousal rollover scenario with a twist that most people, including Chris, do not see coming. The answer turns on a benefit the tax code extends to surviving spouses that is easy to overlook if you are not specifically looking for it.
We wrap up with which IRA funds can actually be rolled into an employer plan and why that distinction matters if you are sitting on after-tax basis inside a traditional IRA. There is a clean strategy for separating it, but there is also a timing mistake that catches people who think they have successfully pulled it off — when they have not. More people fall into that trap than you would expect, and the consequences are not trivial.
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| 1:25.2 | Now here's Jim and Chris with today's show. |
| 1:32.4 | Well, hello and welcome to the Retirement and IRA show, EDU edition for this week. |
| 1:38.9 | This week's show is a continuation from last week. We're going through what we call |
| 1:44.0 | the Ed Slot Quiz or Exam, which are a series of questions |
| 1:48.5 | that are posed to the advisors who participate in the Ed Slot training program a couple |
| 1:55.4 | times a year. |
| 1:56.7 | Jim's a member of that advisory, that advice group that attends those sessions. |
| 2:03.3 | And as part of that learning opportunity, Ed Slott's program sends them quiz questions to test their knowledge. |
| 2:11.3 | And he, Jim, brings those to the show here. |
| 2:14.0 | And he quizzes me, which is also kind of quizzing you all too, kind of playing along |
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