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Justice Department Pardon Attorney and former weaponization czar and Associate Deputy Attorney General Ed Martin is under investigation by the Bar Association in the District of Columbia.

The Justice Department has proposed a new rule that would allow Attorney General Pam Bondi to suspend state bar association investigations into Department of Justice lawyers.

A federal grand jury has subpoenaed Arizona 2020 voting records as the Trump administration pushes to consolidate election power.

And an assistant U.S. attorney in North Carolina quit in the courtroom over AI-generated

quotes and erroneous citations in an AI-produced court brief.

This is Unjustified.

Hey, everybody, welcome to episode 60 of Unjustified. It is Sunday, March 15th, 2026. I'm Alison Gill.

And I'm Andy McCabe. Allison, welcome back for The Big 60. Look at us. 60 episodes into this thing.

Unbelievable. I would rather be 180 episodes into the Jack podcast, if I'm being honest. Okay. Good point. Very good point. But here we are. But actually,

lucky day for us because we have a terrific guest to start off the show. So joining us today to discuss

what's going on with pardon attorney and unjustified, maybe favorite subject,

I don't know, Ed Martin, and also Pam Bondi's new rule to stop state bar association investigations

into DOJ attorneys. We have former pardon attorney for the Justice Department, Liz Oyer.

Liz, thank you so much for joining today.

It's a pleasure to have you here on the pod. Thanks so much for having me. Yeah, there's so much

going on over there at DOJ. It's hard to keep up with all of it, but we always spend a fair amount of

time talking about Mr. Martin and the many adventures he's had since, I guess, January of last year

when he had, when he started over at the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office. But let's start here with you.

So if I have this right, Liz, Georgetown, Harvard Law School, clerked for the 11th Circuit.

You were at Mayor Brown, I think, first as you started out your legal career after the clerkship.

Then you were a federal public defender for 10 years.

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