Welcome to the Conversations That Matter Podcast. My name is John Harris. We're

going to talk today about something I haven't talked about in a while and

that's the Southern Baptist Convention. The reason for that there's a few of them one is after the last

convention meeting in June I felt like I had had my say I had I had, we had interviews with people who worked at various parts of the

nomination, you got to hear from Kyle Witt, you got to hear from Randy Adams, you got to hear

from Russell Fuller, you got to hear from Bobby Lopez. You got to hear in the

you know I don't even know who else. This list goes on. I did profiles of

major Southern Baptist leaders. We analyze some of the things they said

versus what they did versus where their money was going

versus who they were partnering with. We just did a lot of we did a lot of analyzing

and yesterday I got a few messages from people just telling me how helpful that was and I know it is I know it is for many of you out there

especially if you're living your life you're not paying attention to all this and you need someone to break it down so I get it

But I think the

information's out there at this point and so that I've been kind of reluctant I know you

know NAM is requiring all their missionary I don't know if it's named, IMB is requiring all their missionaries to get

the jab. And this is before Biden's supposed mandate. And so I thought, oh, maybe I'll focus on that. But it just, I'm like, you know I thought maybe I'll focus on that but it just I'm like you know if you

didn't think that that was gonna happen in the I and B like I don't you're not paying attention I mean these you know have you seen the the rhetoric and the

articles and everything else coming out from southern Baptist entities on their reaction

to COVID have you been watching I mean this was kind of expected so that's part of the reason I haven't focused on it on on it as much

But the thing is there are still people in the convention who are believe it or not they they haven't been paying attention

They're still unaware they're still giving I don't know why you would remain in the convention

especially if you're a pastor what are you getting in return I mean honestly

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