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🗓️ 11 November 2025
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Retired FBI agent and criminal profiler Candice DeLong explores the disturbing case of Ed Kemper, known as “The Co-Ed Killer.” In the early 1970s, young women began vanishing from the streets of Northern California. When the truth finally came to light, it revealed a killer unlike any other: a towering, soft-spoken man whose charm and intellect hid monstrous impulses. By the time he was caught, eight people – including his own mother – were dead. Only later would investigators learn that Kemper’s knack for violence began years earlier. Candice examines how deep resentment, emotional isolation, and a fractured relationship with his mother fueled one of the most chilling killing sprees of the decade, and how his later cooperation with the FBI helped shape modern criminal profiling.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi there. Want to know what drives someone to kill? Join Wondery Plus for early access, exclusive episodes that unpack the psychology of the crime, and it's all ad-free. Start your free trial of Wondery Plus now. |
| 0:17.0 | A listener note. This episode contains discussions of graphic violence, sexual abuse, and animal death. |
| 0:25.4 | Listener discretion is strongly advised. |
| 0:33.9 | Before the 1970s, the term serial killer did not exist. |
| 0:43.4 | There were serial killers in existence, people who committed brutal, senseless, horrifying series of murders. |
| 0:52.1 | But there was no explanation for why they did what they did. Enter Robert |
| 0:58.5 | Ressler and John Douglas, my mentors, two FBI agents who wanted to learn the why. So they did |
| 1:07.4 | something no one in law enforcement had ever done before. |
| 1:11.5 | They went behind bars sitting face to face with killers. |
| 1:17.4 | One by one, they interviewed the country's most notorious murderers. |
| 1:22.7 | They listened to how they spoke about their crimes, |
| 1:26.0 | what they remembered, how they did it, what they got out of it. |
| 1:32.0 | Their goal was not to sympathize with their subjects, but to understand them. |
| 1:38.5 | And that understanding would become the foundation of modern criminal profiling. |
| 1:45.6 | One of the first men they met was Ed Kemper. |
| 1:50.2 | Through Ed and others like him, Ressler and Douglas built a framework for understanding the criminal mind. |
| 1:59.3 | But unlike some of Ressler and Douglas's other subjects, Ed was |
| 2:04.8 | brilliant, composed, and self-aware. He described his twisted crimes, including murder, |
| 2:14.9 | dismemberment, and necrophilia, with an unnerving calmness. |
| 2:21.3 | Before them was a man who hit a burning rage behind a friendly demeanor. |
| 2:26.9 | A man who callously took the lives of ten people, including his own family members. |
| 2:33.8 | A man whose intelligence and politeness |
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