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🗓️ 27 August 2022
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0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Bill Crystal. Welcome back to Conversations. I'm very pleased to be joined today by Ed Glazer, |
0:20.1 | chairman of the economics department at Harvard University at very distinguished microeconomist. |
0:25.0 | I'm stressing that Ed is, I don't know, I think I think you microeconomists have a slight |
0:30.1 | disdain is too strong, right? But it's like preference for being microeconomists to microeconomists. |
0:35.7 | Ed is known best perhaps as an economist of urban things and of cities and a student of cities |
0:43.6 | in ways that go beyond economics and removal. We'll touch on that, but very excellent book that |
0:48.8 | people should read from 2012, Triumph of the City, how our greatest invention makes us richer, |
0:56.9 | smarter, healthier, and happier. That's impressive. Survival of the City about a year ago. |
1:07.4 | And I saw you just wrote a preface that's coming up for a new edition of Mac or Olsons. |
1:11.9 | I did rise bookline nations, which is coming out in September. So people should look at that. We |
1:17.2 | can even get to talk about that book and fill it's me some in grad school, I think, and had a |
1:21.2 | big influence on political science, maybe more than economics. I don't know. Anyway, Ed, thank you |
1:25.3 | for joining me. Oh, thank you so much for having me on. It's great. No, it's great to have you. |
1:28.5 | So you're a fan of the city and the cities and the importance of cities and you studied them |
1:34.0 | in such an interesting way. Why cities can make the basic case for the fundamental importance of |
1:40.0 | cities? Absolutely, but I want to make it clear from the beginning that I am not advocating that |
1:44.7 | everyone should live in cities, nor am I advocating that the federal government should artificially |
1:48.4 | subsidize cities. But I think that cities have four thousands of years empowered humanity in |
1:55.2 | ways that are incredibly important. I mean, if you think about us as a species, our greatest talent |
2:00.8 | is our ability to work together, right? I mean, on our own, we're really puny creatures. I mean, |
2:06.3 | few of us could take on a bear without, you know, without external help. But collectively, we've |
2:12.4 | done amazing things. And I think we're continuing to do amazing things. And cities have made that |
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