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Ed Glaeser: The Case for Cities

Conversations with Bill Kristol

Conversations with Bill Kristol

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🗓️ 27 August 2022

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Why do great cities rise and fall? Why have cities been pivotal to the dynamism and growth of America's economy? What are the threats cities face today—and what can we learn from history about how best to help our cities thrive? To discuss these questions, we are joined by Ed Glaeser, chairman of the Department of Economics at Harvard University, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and one of the world’s leading experts on the economics and politics of cities. Glaeser explains that cities benefit from and encourage the human desire for proximity to one another, which can lead to new ideas, the transmission of discoveries, and entrepreneurship. But cities also are vulnerable to stagnation and decline, particularly when entrenched interests engage in "rent-seeking”— policies that keep newcomers down or out. Glaeser notes that we should avoid the temptation to develop a rigid set of policy prescriptions for every city, or to believe we know precisely how to plan cities or neighborhoods. Rather, he argues, we should favor policies that encourage innovation and development, and do not restrict the opportunity for people to cluster in the urban areas they choose.

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Bill Crystal. Welcome back to Conversations. I'm very pleased to be joined today by Ed Glazer,

0:20.1

chairman of the economics department at Harvard University at very distinguished microeconomist.

0:25.0

I'm stressing that Ed is, I don't know, I think I think you microeconomists have a slight

0:30.1

disdain is too strong, right? But it's like preference for being microeconomists to microeconomists.

0:35.7

Ed is known best perhaps as an economist of urban things and of cities and a student of cities

0:43.6

in ways that go beyond economics and removal. We'll touch on that, but very excellent book that

0:48.8

people should read from 2012, Triumph of the City, how our greatest invention makes us richer,

0:56.9

smarter, healthier, and happier. That's impressive. Survival of the City about a year ago.

1:07.4

And I saw you just wrote a preface that's coming up for a new edition of Mac or Olsons.

1:11.9

I did rise bookline nations, which is coming out in September. So people should look at that. We

1:17.2

can even get to talk about that book and fill it's me some in grad school, I think, and had a

1:21.2

big influence on political science, maybe more than economics. I don't know. Anyway, Ed, thank you

1:25.3

for joining me. Oh, thank you so much for having me on. It's great. No, it's great to have you.

1:28.5

So you're a fan of the city and the cities and the importance of cities and you studied them

1:34.0

in such an interesting way. Why cities can make the basic case for the fundamental importance of

1:40.0

cities? Absolutely, but I want to make it clear from the beginning that I am not advocating that

1:44.7

everyone should live in cities, nor am I advocating that the federal government should artificially

1:48.4

subsidize cities. But I think that cities have four thousands of years empowered humanity in

1:55.2

ways that are incredibly important. I mean, if you think about us as a species, our greatest talent

2:00.8

is our ability to work together, right? I mean, on our own, we're really puny creatures. I mean,

2:06.3

few of us could take on a bear without, you know, without external help. But collectively, we've

2:12.4

done amazing things. And I think we're continuing to do amazing things. And cities have made that

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