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🗓️ 29 April 2020
⏱️ 40 minutes
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In this episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell speaks with Olivier Blanchard, former chief economist for the International Monetary Fund and Senior Fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics. Blanchard and Morell discuss the near- and long-term global economic effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, the policy response from governments, and the prospects for an eventual recovery. Blanchard also explains recent turbulence in global oil markets and the vulnerabilities specific to lower-income economies. Intelligence Matters will dedicate several forthcoming episodes to understanding the fundamentals and national security implications of COVID-19.
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0:08.4 | This is Intelligence Matters with former acting director of the CIA, Michael Morrell. |
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0:17.8 | You've looked at a lot of economic history in your career, and I'm just wondering if you've ever seen anything |
0:25.4 | like this from the perspective of the speed of the decline, the depth of the decline, and the breadth of the decline. |
0:34.4 | Is this unprecedented from your perspective, even throwing the Great Depression in there? |
0:40.4 | I think it's completely unprecedented. I mean, again, what you had is an overnight forced decrease in production of 35%. |
0:49.4 | I cannot think of any episode in history going back centuries on millennia, in which something happened that speed up that magnitude. |
1:01.4 | You clearly have had periods in history when output was decreased by a whole lot, and that's shown during the Black playing and times like that. |
1:10.4 | But nothing would happen within a few weeks, so this is completely unprecedented. |
1:17.4 | My sense of Olivier is there's this idea out there that you can just kind of flip the switch on an economy. |
1:25.4 | How do you think about that? I mean, once we're ready to, for people to go back to work, how quickly would things go back to normal, |
1:34.4 | and the longer we're on lockdown and the longer the economy is significantly below its potential, how will that affect the eventual recovery? |
1:46.4 | So I think you can flick the switch off there easily, and that's what we did. Flicking it on is much, much, much harder, and that's basically what we'll just have to see. |
2:00.4 | I think we're just going to see what happens. |
2:04.4 | On a cold night in 2010, a boy is stopped by the police while walking home from a party in the Bronx. He's only 16. |
2:14.4 | He's been stopped by the police before, but this time is different. In a special four-part series, The Generation Y Podcast unravels the story of Khalif Browder, a young boy who was falsely accused of stealing a backpack and held without bail at Reikers Island for three years. |
2:31.4 | He endured regular abuse by prison staff and inmates and was held in solitary confinement for more than 700 consecutive days. |
2:39.4 | Three years later, Khalif was released, never having stood trial. |
2:43.4 | This is a story that digs into the injustice of the justice system and a young life caught in the middle. We say innocent until proven guilty, but where do we draw the line between due process and cruelty? |
2:55.4 | To hear this four-part series, follow Generation Y wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. |
3:03.4 | Olivier Blanchard served as the chief economist at the International Monetary Fund from 2008 to 2015. He has taught economics at both Harvard and MIT, and he has served as the president of the American Economic Association. |
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