Welcome to The Lost Debate, a show for Political Ecclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta, and today we're

welcoming on somebody who I have been reading in print, or I guess digitally, for quite some time.

Noah Smith, who has the No Opinion substack, which is one of my favorite newsletters out there.

It's an economics newsletter, and Noah was a PhD student at the University of Michigan

and then an assistant finance professor at Stony Brook, go SUNY. I was a Binghamton guy, Noah.

And then an economics columnist for Bloomberg opinion. He left Bloomberg in late 2021 to start

his juggernaut of a substack. Noah, welcome with the podcast.

Hey, thanks for having me on, man.

Well, okay, Noah, I want to talk to you about three things today.

One is immigration, two is AI, and the third is education, all topics that you've written about recently.

But let's start with immigration.

I recently watched a really smart video you guys put up a couple months ago about the economics of immigration.

You know, our audience is pretty split politically.

And I would say we've been having a pretty spirited back and forth with our own audience about what kind of immigration system we want here in the United States.

And I want to tackle this from an

economic perspective. And I want to start by just talking about, like, what effects can we

gather, like that immigration have had, both illegal and legal immigration, what effects that

has had on the people who currently live here?

Has it, you know, like some of the sort of fearmongering says that it's taking jobs from people,

that it's driving of prices, increasing the costs of government, et cetera.

What can we tell about how immigration is affecting the people here?

Great question. Well, you know, of course, there's been a ton of research on this.

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