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Guys, in 2019, raised a $37,000 500 pre-seed round to launch his company,

manageable.com, which helps teams get trained better, increases employee engagement.

He got his former employer as first customer.

Now three customers.

He's doing about $1,700 per month in revenue.

He supported himself for the past

five years while they built the MVP with consulting work, but is now saying, hmm, do I go full time?

Do I go all in? We sure hope he does. Hey, folks. My guest today is Steve Petersheim. He's building

manageable. That's MNGBL.com, giving you accurate and useful appraisal. Steve, you ready to take us to the top?

Sure. All right. Did you come from real estate and say I'm sick of fighting for a 3% commission

every month? I'm going to go build software instead. No, I came from my original career was

newspaper distribution. So operations is what I did for the early part of my career.

That's way back in the old economy days. You know, anyway, then after that became, you know,

not a thing, you know, didn't want to do that anymore. And then I decided to get into HR

because when I decided to change careers and I thought, okay, of all the things I did

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