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From KQED Public Radio in San Francisco, I'm Mina Kim.

For her new book, The Sum of Us, on what racism costs us all, Heather McGee journeyed across the country, including to California, documenting the stories of Americans of all races, struggling to meet their basic needs as a consequence of what she calls zero-sum thinking, the idea that progress

for one racial group has to come at the expense of another. We'll talk with McGee about the role

of racism in thwarting efforts like well-funded public schools or affordable health care, and what she learned about a way out of zero-sum thinking.

That's next on Forum. I'm Nina Kim. In the 1950s and 60s, when some towns faced having

to racially integrate their whites-only public pools, they drain the pools instead, and nobody

could use them. For economic and social policy expert Heather McGee, the act of draining pools and taking

them away from everyone rather than let black families swim there exemplifies how racism

takes from all of us.

And that's the central argument in her new book, The Sum of Us, how racism costs everyone

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