Eclipse in Quarantine: Interview with Emily Nagoski
Hot and Bothered
Not Sorry Productions
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🗓️ 3 March 2021
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
CW: In this episode we discuss sexual assault and read an explicit scene of assault and emotional abuse from Eclipse.
Still reeling from the Jacob/Bella plot line, Vanessa turns to sex educator and author Emily Nagoski for some help in making sense of Eclipse. They discuss the history of women's sexualization, how Jacob's storyline plays upon real and toxic gender norms, and what to do with Romance novels that uphold the patriarchy.
If you haven't already, be sure to check out Emily's amazing books! She's the author Come as You Are: The Surprising New Science That Will Transform Your Sex Life, Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle, and two romance novels of her very own: How Not to Fall and How Not to Let Go.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, everybody. Before we get started today, we are having a conversation with Emily Nagoski, |
| 0:04.9 | who is an incredible writer and sexual health expert. And so we're going to talk about some |
| 0:09.5 | difficult things. The trigger warning is specifically, I read to Emily parts of Twilight that we |
| 0:16.8 | have skipped before, Jacob convincing Bella to kiss him and all of that. So if this is an episode |
| 0:23.2 | that you want to skip, we totally understand and we will be back to a regular episode next week. |
| 0:27.4 | I'm Vanessa Zoltan and this is not your usual episode of Twilight in quarantine. |
| 0:44.8 | We are going to have a different kind of episode of Hotton by the this week in which it is just me |
| 0:49.1 | and I will be talking to the great Emily Nagoski, who is one of my favorite writers when I was |
| 0:54.8 | officiating weddings. The only book that I would require people to read was Emily's first book, |
| 1:00.5 | come as you are, which is incredible. And if you haven't read it yet, go read it. But she is also |
| 1:06.7 | the author of burnout, which she co-authored with her twin sister, which I just read and recommended |
| 1:12.7 | in our newsletter because it made me cry with feeling seen. And for eight years, Emily worked as a |
| 1:20.1 | lecture and the director of wellness education at Smith College before transitioning to full |
| 1:24.5 | time writing and speaking. So she now gives trainings to professionals, teaching college students |
| 1:29.7 | and other lay people and is learning more every day about the science and art of sexual while being. |
| 1:35.8 | Emily, thank you so much for joining us. It is my pleasure. So I know that you haven't read the |
| 1:41.6 | Twilight books, but can you tell us what you do know about them? I have seen one of the movies. |
| 1:47.2 | Okay. So I know that it's a vampire werewolf teenage girl love triangle. I know that Bella is an |
| 1:56.8 | empty vessel of a heroine with no personality trace to speak of of them the fact that she is |
| 2:03.2 | magnetically irresistible to both of the heroes she gives birth and almost dies. And the symbolism |
| 2:12.2 | of almost dying in childbirth and the only way she can be saved is by being bitten and becoming a |
| 2:16.6 | vampire herself. It's really in burnout, we use this phrase human giver syndrome where women have |
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