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Evidence Based Birth®

EBB 368 - Redemptive Cesarean after Planning a Home VBAC with Rikki and Nova Jenkins

Evidence Based Birth®

Rebecca Dekker

Pregnancy, Health & Fitness, Childbirth, Parenting, Birth, Medicine, Kids & Family, Doula, Obstetrician, Midwife

4.6978 Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Rikki and Nova Jenkins join Dr. Rebecca Dekker to share the personal and powerful story of their second birth: a planned home VBAC that ultimately led to a hospital transfer. Rikki, Evidence Based Birth®®️ Instructor Coordinator, doula, and IBCLC, reflects on the trauma of her first Cesarean birth and the deep healing she found through midwifery care, doula support, and intentional preparation. Nova, a Grammy-nominated music producer and proud girl dad, shares his emotional journey from feeling powerless in their first birth to becoming a protective presence throughout this redemptive experience. Together, they offer a vulnerable, moving conversation about reclaiming birth after trauma, processing grief, and creating a peaceful bubble of support for their family, even when things don’t go as planned.
 
Content Note: This episode contains description of obstetric violence from (14:05) to (18:55) and of unexpectedly losing consciousness during a Cesarean from (40:54) to (45:43).
 
(04:36) Why They Chose a Home VBAC After Trauma
(08:46) Dual Care with a Midwife and OB
(11:22) Processing the First Cesarean—Seven Years Later
(19:09) Prepping for a Home Birth and VBAC
(21:40) Including Their Daughter in Prenatal Care
(24:10) Amora’s Labor and When Things Stalled
(30:12) Making the Empowered Decision to Transfer
(34:11) A Healing, Respectful Cesarean Experience
(45:02) When Language Hurts: “Failed Home Birth”
(51:04) Planning for Postpartum and Accepting Support
(52:49) Advice for Those Planning a VBAC or Home Birth
 
Resources
Follow Rikki: @sacredjourneylv
Follow Nova: @novablessed
Explore Heart & Soul Collective: www.heartandsolcollective.org | @heartandsolcollective
Check out Flor Cruz’s “Badass Motherbirther:" www.badassmotherbirther.com
 
For more information about Evidence Based Birth® and a crash course on evidence based care, visit www.ebbirth.com. Follow us on Instagram and YouTube! Ready to learn more? Grab an EBB Podcast Listening Guide or read Dr. Dekker's book, "Babies Are Not Pizzas: They're Born, Not Delivered!" If you want to get involved at EBB, join our Professional membership (scholarship options available) and get on the wait list for our EBB Instructor program. Find an EBB Instructor here, and click here to learn more about the EBB Childbirth Class.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi everyone. On today's podcast, we're going to talk with Ricky and Nova Jenkins about their

0:05.4

decision to plan a home V-back and the journey that led to a hospital transfer and ultimately

0:10.8

a redemptive caesarian. Welcome to the Evidence-Based Birth Podcast. My name is Rebecca Decker,

0:20.2

and I'm a nurse with my PhD and the founder of evidence-based birth.

0:24.7

Join me each week as we work together to get evidence-based information into the hands of families and professionals around the world.

0:32.6

As a reminder, this information is not medical advice.

0:36.2

See eBbirth.com slash disclaimer for more details.

0:41.9

Hi everyone and welcome back to the evidence-based birth podcast.

0:45.5

I hope you've been enjoying our August episodes featuring Team EBB as much as I've enjoyed

0:50.4

sharing them with you.

0:51.8

If you've missed any of our podcast this month,

0:54.2

I encourage you to go back and give them a listen.

0:56.8

Each episode this month is a chance to get to know

0:59.8

some of the real people behind evidence-based birth

1:02.7

and the heart that they put into our work.

1:05.4

So last week you got a chance to learn from Jen Anderson

1:08.2

about recent trends in labor induction. Today you're going to hear from

1:12.5

EBB instructor coordinator Ricky Jenkins and her husband Nova about their powerful cesarean birth story.

1:18.8

And next week you'll hear from Dr. Morgan Richardson Kayama, a research team member at EBB,

1:23.8

who has a brand new handle on respectful maternity care that she'll be sharing with you

1:28.6

and you can download next week for free. Another exciting thing that's happening next week is we

1:34.1

will be opening up the EBB shop for a fantastic Labor Day sale to celebrate all things

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