EBB 229 - Evidence on Doulas: Community-based Model, the Pandemic, and Reimbursement with the EBB Research Team
Evidence Based Birth®
Rebecca Dekker
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🗓️ 22 June 2022
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
In today's episode, hosted by the EBB Research Team, we are sharing the audio from a private livestream we did with our Pro Members at Evidence Based Birth. We talk about three major topics related to updated research evidence on doulas: 1) research on the pandemic's effect on the doula profession around the world, 2) research on the difference between community-based doulas and private or traditional doulas, and 3) new info on paying or getting reimbursement for doula care in the U.S. [NOTE FOR LIBSYN ONLY]: This podcast is also posted on our YouTube channel in case you want to access the video of our team teaching, and a screenshare of some of the evidence we're talking about!
As a content note, this episode includes discussion of COVID-19, racism, and how a lack of postpartum coverage is in some cases tied to the same places that have abortion bans.
Today's episode is taught by Rebecca Dekker, PhD, RN (she/her), Ihotu Ali, MPH (she/her), and Erin Wilson, MPH (she/her). Dr. Dekker is a nurse with her PhD who is the founder and CEO of EBB. Ihotu is a community-based doula, Maya abdominal massage therapist, doctoral student in chiropractic medicine, director of the Oshun Center for Intercultural Healing, and Research Editor at EBB. Erin is a clinical researcher, doula, childbirth educator, policy advocate, and Research Editor at EBB. Together, we will share with you some research we were compiling about the evidence on doula care!
Content warning: Discussion of the COVID-19 pandemic, racism, and how a lack of postpartum Medicaid coverage is in some cases tied to the same places that are issuing abortion bans.
Resources:
- For a full list of scientific references, see the blog post that goes along with this episode
- Check out our Signature Article... Evidence on: Doulas at https://evidencebasedbirth.com/doulas
- The Sista Midwife Productions Black doula/midwife directory is here: http://www.sistamidwifedirectory.com/
- Go to our YouTube channel to see video versions of all our podcasts! (including PowerPoint presentations when used)
- Check your state's status on whether or not they're funding doulas through Medicaid here: https://healthlaw.org/doulamedicaidproject/#:~:text=Read%20the%20Report-,Current%20State%20Doula%20Medicaid%20Efforts,-The%20National%20Health
- Check your state's status on whether they're expanding Medicaid postpartum here: https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/medicaid-postpartum-coverage-extension-tracker/
- Donate or apply for the Hello Seven doula fund for Black families here: https://helloseven.org/
- If you support this work, we encourage you to use your voice and speak up, and to caution against low reimbursement rates and expensive licensure/certification processes that have created barriers to entry in certain states that are actively reimbursing doulas. We at EBB want to see all doulas earn a living wage, regardless of which type of clients they serve (Commonwealth Fund: Issue Brief, 2021).
- Doulas can apply for a National Provider Identification (NPI) number. Here is a guide on how to apply and here is a link to the application through CMS. If you can get an NPI, it will increase your chances of getting paid through insurance/help your clients receive insurance reimbursement.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hi everyone on today's podcast we're going to talk about updated research evidence on doula's. |
| 0:10.0 | Welcome to the Evidence-Based Birth Podcast. My name is Rebecca Decker and I'm a nurse with my |
| 0:14.5 | PhD and the founder of Evidence-based birth. Join me each week as we work together |
| 0:20.0 | to get evidence-based information into the hands of families and professionals around the world. |
| 0:25.9 | As a reminder this information is not medical advice. |
| 0:29.3 | See EBBirth.com slash disclaimer for more details. birth. |
| 0:33.4 | Hi everyone and welcome to today's episode of the evidence-based birth |
| 0:39.0 | podcast. |
| 0:40.0 | My name is Dr. Rebecca Decker, pronouns she, her, and I'm a nurse with my PhD and the founder of |
| 0:44.9 | Evidence Space Birth. |
| 0:46.7 | Today I will be co-hosting today's episode along with our research editors at E.B. |
| 0:51.7 | I Hotho Ali M. P. M. P.H. and Aaron Wilson M. |
| 0:55.8 | Today's episode is very special because we are going to share with you the private audio and |
| 1:00.8 | video from a live stream we did with our pro members here at EBB. |
| 1:05.4 | In this live stream our research team discussed three major topics related to updated |
| 1:10.1 | research evidence on doula's. |
| 1:12.1 | We talked about the research on the pandemics |
| 1:14.4 | effect on the dula profession, research on the difference between community-based |
| 1:18.8 | dualas and private or traditional dualas, and new info on paying or getting reimbursement for |
| 1:24.8 | Dula Care in the United States. |
| 1:27.2 | This podcast is also being posted on our YouTube channel in case you want to access the |
| 1:31.5 | video of us and the screen share of some of |
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