Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. We are not in LA today. We are over here at 85 South

Studios with the special guest of the day. Van Lathen is in the building. You guys may know him as

podcaster, Academy Award winning executive producer, you know, but I like to acknowledge you as the man that stood up to Kanye West in a TMZ office.

Commissioner of the BBI.

Commissioner and we're going to leave the commissioner of the BBI off.

But, man, before we get into where you're at today, I want you to take me back to where you were

when you were broke, what dish you're going to have cooked for us to eat today.

So you can start with that.

You don't want to do. So I get out of my bro.

So I get out of college around, I would say, 2003, 2003 I got out of college. And there's this, like, transitional period in my life. Because I was always interested in people's stories and everybody's stories seems so linear every story seems linear when you're when you're at the end of it

everybody has a moment that something happened for them everybody has a moment

that they realize something but when you're in the middle of it you don't know

you don't know when it's going middle of it, you don't know.

You don't know when it's going to happen for you.

You don't know how it's going to happen for you.

Certain people have more certainty than other people do,

but all you can do is work and try.

And I get into this point,

and this is this weird, odd point to where I'm like,

nothing that I thought was going to happen or no way that I wanted to go is the way that I wanted to go.

So you're graduated. We're taking back to when you graduated college. Right. And so I'm working at Best Buy. And this is the same time that the college dropout has come out around that same time, Kanye's first album. And what he's talking about.

Great album. Great album. He's talking about disillusioned high school graduates who now have to realize that

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